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accord will not start - 8/19/2008 9:46:45 AM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline hi, i have an 1996 honda accord 4 cyl. non vtec. i recently removed the fuel rail to clean off all of the corosion ang oil.  i replace all of the o rings and gaskets on the injectors also. once i reinstalled everything, it will not start. the rail is getting pressure, and all hoses and connections and correct. i was wondering is anybody could help me out. Thanks, Patrickz _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec Post #: 1

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 9:49:54 AM    Aquariumjunkie Posts: 59 Joined: 2/18/2008 Status: offline have you checked the battery? if you have, then check the spark plugs, wires. does it turn over? _____________________________ 01 Accord EX Coupe... Tein Springs AEM Cold Air GReedy EVO2 Cat-Back Exhaust Strut Bar 10K HIDs (in reply to patrickz) Post #: 2

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 9:55:10 AM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline yes, the battery is good, and the spark plug wires and good. the starter cranks the engine, but it wont turn over. _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec (in reply to patrickz) Post #: 3

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 10:05:37 AM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline yes, the battery is good, and so are the wires.  it turns but wont start _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec (in reply to Aquariumjunkie) Post #: 4

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 10:14:29 AM    PAhonda   Posts: 1280 Joined: 9/22/2006 Status: offline You need to determine if the problem is lack of spark or fuel.  Does the check engine light stay on, and have you checked for any codes? You should hear the fuel pump turn on while the check engine light is on (~ two seconds) when you turn the key to the II position.  It is a faint whirling/buzzing sound that comes from the back seat/trunk area. _____________________________ 1995 Accord EX MT (in reply to patrickz) Post #: 5

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 10:21:11 AM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline how do i determine that? yes, the engine light stays on. i checked, and i can hear the fuel pump in the back _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec (in reply to PAhonda) Post #: 6

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 12:06:46 PM    falkore24 Posts: 5663 Joined: 8/16/2007 From: Wayne, NJ Status: offline Pull out a spark plug and tape it to the engine for a solid ground.  Have someone crank the car to see the spark strength ...... best done at dusk. _____________________________ 2006 Scion TC (ZPI-18G pending) 2000 V6-AT (RIP 3G) Temp Search thanks to Finch13 (in reply to patrickz) Post #: 7

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 12:21:16 PM    PAhonda   Posts: 1280 Joined: 9/22/2006 Status: offline Follow the instructions in this link to get the error codes: http://www.dhost.info/accordinfo/howto/cel.html Use a thin paperclip to jump that service connector.  Post the code on here. _____________________________ 1995 Accord EX MT (in reply to falkore24) Post #: 8

RE: accord will not start - 8/19/2008 12:23:28 PM    JimBlake   Posts: 3137 Joined: 5/31/2006 Status: online Pull that spark plug right after trying to start it.  Then you can check for fuel in the cylinder.  Having pressure in the fuel rail doesnt prove the injectors are firing. _____________________________ '03 Accord & '07 Civic '01 Saab 9³ & '05 9²x (in reply to falkore24) Post #: 9

RE: accord will not start - 8/20/2008 10:27:42 AM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline ill try that and tell u how it goes. thank you so much. _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec (in reply to JimBlake) Post #: 10

RE: accord will not start - 8/20/2008 1:11:08 PM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline i just tried the engine code thing, and it only had one of those blue plugs. i used a small paper clip, and it gave me the code "22" through the red SRS light. on the link you gave me it said   "Note* It has come to my attention that some 96 Accords have a service connector behind the ashtray"  i have a 96 accord and i remover the ashtray and found a connector. it has many holes, and i dont know which ones to use. thank you so much _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec (in reply to PAhonda) Post #: 11

RE: accord will not start - 8/20/2008 2:56:46 PM    PAhonda   Posts: 1280 Joined: 9/22/2006 Status: offline That SRS code is for the passenger air bag and it is either (2-2, or 1-1) and will not cause your car not to start.  That 16-pin connector behind the ash tray will hook up to any OBD code reader to pull off more detailed codes (P#### is how they are reported).  Since your car isn''t running, you can''t drive it to autozone to get the codes read for free.  It isn''t worth buying one, since a paperclip will also get the code for you. As long as you shorted the blue two-pin connector and NOT the one with three wires, then you found the right connector. If the check engine light didn''t flash any codes, then there are likely no codes stored on the ECU.  I can''t remember what the check engine light does if no code is stored (either remains on, shuts off). _____________________________ 1995 Accord EX MT (in reply to patrickz) Post #: 12

RE: accord will not start - 8/20/2008 3:00:58 PM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline ok how do u recomend i get it read then? i went back through the engine today, and all connections are correct and secure to the best of my know how. _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec (in reply to PAhonda) Post #: 13

RE: accord will not start - 8/21/2008 5:40:22 AM    patrickz   Posts: 172 Joined: 8/19/2008 Status: offline then how can i find the codes? _____________________________ -it is what makes us different, that brings us together- 1996 accord 25th anniversary no vtec (in reply to patrickz) Post #: 14

RE: accord will not start - 8/21/2008 2:22:29 PM    PAhonda   Posts: 1280 Joined: 9/22/2006 Status: offline If the CEL did not blink any codes when you had the connector shorted, then there are likely no codes stored on the ECU.  I was hoping that something obvious would come up. Have you pulled a sparkplug and tested for adequate spark.  Without this info, its hard to give you more detailed instructions. _____________________________ 1995 Accord EX MT (in reply to patrickz) Post #: 15

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