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sssexy70
4/22/2007 10:55:32 PM
I have a short ram which is only a little bit effective (not noticable)... I'm planning on exhaust headers... obx of course... but I'm wondering will the two work together and give me a lot more horses?  Or am I wasting money...  Can someone guess how much hp gain I will get having both?
 
I want to notice power, not noise...
 
And of course, the other question, fuel consumption between the two, will it actually go down?
 
Thanks
03Sleeper
4/23/2007 1:27:03 AM
8-12 for headers

SRI should be around 3-5 after you get the K&N filter or Injen filter or AEM filter, etc.

net HP gain: 11-17 HP.

If you had a 6 cylinder, the gains would be more drastic. Up to 12 HP for intake, etc.
ckebottle
4/23/2007 2:10:40 AM
When you say net gain, is that at the wheels?
sssexy70
4/23/2007 8:38:48 AM
While we're adding things up, what would a catback add?  Or maybe just a higher flowing cat converter?  Whats a good price for a converter?
I'm looking at OBX catback because they are less expensive but just as good quality, but how loud is it? Will a higher flowing cat converter be loud?  I don't want the police after me, and I definitely want to be able to hear my radio!  I also don't want a lot of noise attention...
00AccordLX5spd
4/23/2007 9:34:10 AM
Be careful about the "high flow cats" you see.  The ones that run around $40 or less are more than likely not catalytic converters at all, they just look like one.  The call them "test pipes."  Type in "high flow cat" on a search on this forum and you'll see some helpful info about them.  Most of the guys out there say if you have a cheaper "high flow cat" i.e. "test pipe" most people riding behind you will know you don't have a cat.  If you are in one of the many states whose police officers care about that sort of thing, you will probably get a ticket.
accord93
4/23/2007 11:38:37 AM
yea i agree with sleeper on what u would be looking at for hp gain.  sumtimes the little things are worth it and they look nice under the hood : )
03Sleeper
4/23/2007 5:09:50 PM
new exhaust muffler itself nets you about 7-10. The whole catback nets you around 15....i think.
sssexy70
4/23/2007 5:21:02 PM
But noise is a factor... i hate those guys with their highly modded civics that are loud and obnoxious at all rpm... i don't mind a little noice but i don't want to draw attention and get mad stares...
19Accord97
4/23/2007 7:31:05 PM
SRI will be about 1-3hp
Headers will be around 5ish w/ a stock exhaust

The claims on eBay are way to high.
sir_nasty
4/23/2007 7:38:15 PM
I'm more prone to lean towards 19accord97's guestimates on gain.... I would figure your total gains to be 8-10hp (enough to feel it and notice a difference....) 
sssexy70
4/23/2007 10:10:20 PM
Whats a good quieter muffler?
 
trukid21
4/23/2007 11:14:27 PM
magnaflow straight flow muffler is quiet but has that deep rumble tone.love the sound of it.
ckebottle
4/24/2007 12:08:15 AM
I second that!  I just got a magnaflow muffler with 2.25 in piping and am loving it!  That thing has a very deep tone, not ricey at all.
fabulous010
4/24/2007 1:33:57 AM
ok now that we re on the topic. when u add headers and exhausts u gain hp right. but because of the loss of compression u can loose torque.... am i right? if so will ur car be faster... u will lose low end torque but will gain hp. so i cant make my car jump whenever i step on the gas, but it will pick up speed quicker if i leave my foot on the throttle....?

sorry these are just thoughts and theories of mine....
sssexy70
4/24/2007 8:49:15 AM
Actually, I believe you gain both...  Most people have said that you notice more low end power  when you add these things on.
j_man_honda
4/24/2007 9:04:56 AM
Another magnaflow fan. I have dual magnaflow muffs on my accord and they sound great. They have a nice tone on takeoff and are quieter at cruising speed (55-65mph) so you can hear your music good.
sssexy70
4/24/2007 10:55:43 AM
so where can I find these mufflers?  Ebay doesn't seem to have just the muffler... I'd have to get the full catback which I really can't afford now...
ckebottle
4/24/2007 2:43:48 PM
Maybe try cardomain....also to save some money maybe have a local shop do the piping for you.


Hey 03 sleeper what did you end up getting?  Seems like a lot of magnaflow fans on here!!!  Come join the club!
1996AccordLX
4/24/2007 3:02:48 PM
About the sri, you don't want to use the filter that comes with it though do you?  If you get the one off e-bay.
00AccordLX5spd
4/24/2007 3:07:28 PM
From what I have read on the forum, absolutely not.  Everybody says to either get an AEM dryflow filter (which does not need to be oiled) or a K&N filter (does need to be oiled).  I believe you will wind up paying about $50 for the AEM from what I have researched.  Everyone on here seems to like the dryflow.
1996AccordLX
4/24/2007 3:27:39 PM
Alright cool that's what i thought, i put a sri on my friends car and told him that he needed to get a different filter but he still hasn't done that.  This will just lead to less engine life b/c of all the crap that doesn't get filtered out and gets into the engine right?
bayboy164
4/24/2007 4:48:10 PM
hey all..i want to get into this discussion! i have a 96 accord EX coupe with the vtec engine. i've been reading the previous posts regarding the intake and cat backs..
i want to add a K&N filter in my car..the question is..which is the best? do i go cold air?
at the same time..i want to do a cat back..it sure sounds like you guys think highly of the magna flow..the question: is there one for me? if i do the combination of these two..what's my net gain?
also, if i did headers..is it necessary to even do the catback?
thanks all..!
ckebottle
4/24/2007 5:30:38 PM
I'd go with SRI.  I chose SRI based on what people here have said about them.  It seems to be a crowd favorite.  Cat back is awesome dude.  I was surprised how mean it sounds and it seems to help with hp (not a huge gain).  I see you are in Oakland (i'm in modesto) so we are both California residents and subjected to CARB.  So when it comes to a header we can't get the obx header like so many have since they are not CARB exempt.  We are stuck with DC or AEM, both well over 300 bucks.   



1996AccordLX
4/25/2007 10:18:56 AM
If you use the filter that comes with the cheap intakes, it leads to less engine life b/c of all the crap that doesn't get filtered out and gets into the engine right?
trukid21
4/25/2007 9:58:11 PM
i bought mine from autoanything.com with free shipping for $65.00  check them out.
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