F22B1 SOHC VTEC TURBO?!

Hello all, I'd like an opinion on a turbocharger kit.

I have a 150k accord, brand new head gasket with intake/exhaust/strut braces. Other than those, the engine is stock.

I love the hell out of my car, and plan on just refurbishing/exchanging my engine when it breaks.


My question is, is it worth it to turbo my car? I know the VTEC is controversial, and I only would only run about medium to lower boost.

If it is a bad idea, then what would be better to increase acceleration?

Auto or 5spd?
 
Should've just pulled the block and rebuilt it when you needed to do the head gasket if you wanted boost. Would've put you a few steps ahead.

Yeah I regret not doing a few things while it was all taken apart.

It's an automatic, however the transmission is starting to squeal. It's getting old and i'll need to replace it within the next year or two.

When the next lower-engine problem occurs I'm more than likely going to redo the whole thing. Drop a manual in there, buy a new or just refurbish the engine.

By the time I'm done, I want to install a turbo, whether it be on my current engine or new engine.

You might as well just rebuild it now and swap it to 5spd rather than try and do it later down the line when things start breaking.

how's everything else? compression, block, valves? it has quite a few miles on... do tranny first... and should have rebuild the engine while it was apart, like Blk said.

Frankly, I can't remember how the compression is. I have some NGK Iridiums on their way in the mail, so when I install those bad boys I'll borrow a friend's gauge and check.
 
Hopefully! the compression is good and equal among cylinders, and there are no problems. However, even if there is nothing wrong at the moment, I can't imagine any moving mechanical part under pressure to last much more than 15 years, as many parts in my engine have.
 
So assuming things are getting ready to break, and assuming I'm going to turbo my current engine.....I'll need to replace any parts that can't handle the added pressure and just refurbish the ones that can. Pistons, piston rings, piston rods, valves, & crankshaft probably need to be inspected.
 
 
 
For right now I just want to take steps in the right direction. Should I start preparing to overhaul my current engine, or would it  be wiser to do a complete engine swap?
 
I want longetivity out of my car, so I do not plan on boosting it too much. I'm trying to be vague on exactly what I'm looking for, because I want to feel out my options before I put my mind on one.

If you did a basic rebuild...
 
New pistons and rings (low comp)
New Rods
New head studs
All new bearings
Block honed
New T-belt, water pump, oil pump, + all gaskets
Get the head inspected with new seals
Have the crank inspected
Final assembly
 
A basic machine shop would or should be able to do most of this for you. You just have to price all the parts out.

And stay away from Aries pistons

Since you have a few miles on the car and your tranny sounds like it might go ill just go for the H22a swap. For what it is going to take to get your engine up to par for the turbo just go for the swap first. A jump from 145hp to 200hp with have better acceleration for your car which is what your looking for. after a while when that h22a is in and when you have some money again then go for a turbo. Im looking to do the same. everyone tells me to get a turbo for more power but im just going to wait until my engine or tranny dies and get the h22a swap. Plus it takes alot of work with the computer and all for a turbo upgrade. Plus our f22b1or2 isnt meant for a turbo so youll probably blow the engine pretty quick. Go for the engine swap. i found a website that has great prices on engines which pretty much come with everything > http://www.jdmtunersinc.com/ 

I haven't yet installed the new spark plugs, but I have discovered a problem the compression test will probably pick up: My car is leaking oil =(

The ground where I park my car is polka dotted with oil. It's not leaking horribly, but it seems her demise is approaching sooner than I thought.




I was looking around for a more local engine shop, and ends up there's one not 2 miles from my house:

http://www.usengine.us/



Is there any specific reason why an F22 can't handle or shouldn't handle a turbocharger?
Besides a little higher compression, what does the H22 have that makes it so much better with boost?

Well im not a profeesional or know alot about turbos but our f22 engines dont come with a turbo as it is so it isnt meant to handle to strain from the turbo. I mean the turbo will definitly work on the f22 or h22 but the life of the engine wont be as great unless you put alot more money into the engine. IMO i would just get the h22 and put money into the engine like getting cams, pulleys, fuel system and all those bolt on goodies than having to worry bout the turbo.
 
For that website it only says the litre size and not what engine you are buying? The warranty sounds great but the engines dont really come with anything and the site i found has pretty much everything you need for the engine and the price is about the same. IDK its your choice im just here for an opinion, plus i dont know alot about turbos so keep your eye open on what people have to say.

Swap to a 5spd first. Research your options, consider what you want and choose the best route to get you there.
 
The best modification will be to yourself. Getting to know your way around when working on the car and knowing how to drive it are essential before you start thinking about putting any kind of real power down.

I'm still feelin' out the options
 
 
Within the next few months I plan on pulling out my engine, replacing the transmissino with a 5spd, putting in a new flywheel and finally overhaul the engine before putting it back in.
 
It'll be like new! Well at least semi-new..

good luck w/ that bro... take pics and keep us posted...

No problem man! This site is my honda's bible

anything new dude? remember to keep us updated!

turboing an accord is a lot more work than it sounds you cant just slap a turbo on there and go. the f22 isnt a boost friendly motor stock. when you get boost it will shut down on you. to boost your car you have to do it right and get it tuned. best bet would to be get your block machined and get a real good set of rods and pistons along with the turbo, tune the thing and it will be a hot rod. Not a lot of people turbo accords because it is hard to do. It took me 2 years 2 turbos $12,000 and a lot of patience. in the end its worth it i would never sell my car. just make sure you know what you are doing and dont be afraid to ask questions if you dont

hmmm, i was under the impression that the f22 was a very good motor to boost?? even better than h22???

i think the non-vtec was the one that was good to turbo..the F22B2..

yea thats the one i have and the one i am going to turbo

if thats the case then i think yours is ok to turbo..i guess just dont pass 8psi?

yea atleast not until redoing the internals

yep!!that is correct.. :D..

i dont understand why the f22b1 is such a bad motor to boost because the bottom end can hold up to 300 hp stock,and if you can get a better rod to stroke ratio it shold hold up just as good as the next.
 

VTEC off + boost rpm range = compressor stall