HondaPinoy
4/14/2008 10:45:33 AM
would a H22 swap be a good idea for my 1999 V6 accord? i mean the car is heavy and im down grading in HP but i just want it to be 5 spd.
BlkCurrantKord
4/14/2008 11:14:46 AM
No it wouldn't be a good idea.
live2rice
4/14/2008 11:37:52 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: HondaPinoy
would a H22 swap be a good idea for my 1999 V6 accord? i mean the car is heavy and im down grading in HP but i just want it to be 5 spd.
its not a down grade, they are rated the same in hp, and a h22 would romp on your v6.
however, its not worth it, because your car is a v6 so it makes the swap harder/more epensive, and its a 99 so have fun getting it to pass inspection
HondaPinoy
4/14/2008 11:44:11 AM
inspection? do you mean like it wont fit or something?
live2rice
4/14/2008 12:04:10 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: HondaPinoy
inspection? do you mean like it wont fit or something?
it would take a whole lot more work than its worth to make it fit because the accord V6s engine bay is bigger than the 4cyl. and inspection i mean like state inspection(if your state has it)
nvm i see your state is florida and if i am correct they dont have inspection, so thats not a problem
ta003
4/14/2008 4:04:20 PM
Also there is a legality issue with installing engine from an older model car into a new one. So any 98 or older h22 will be considered an illegal swap (emissions wise) on your 99. Again, this is only a problem if your state has emissions inspection.
I believe this info is correct, but others please correct me if I am wrong.
HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007
4/14/2008 8:04:24 PM
HELL TO THE MOTHERF***ing NO!the V6 possesses more torque!and you do realize that to get a H22 with 5 speed AND then after installation is going to actually cost you around the same as to changing your V6 to 6 speed.....look plain and simple. either sell your V6(seeing how V6 has a higher value then the I-4) and get an I-4 with manual or keep it auto or do the 6 speed manual because that right there is just plain nonsense. and yes it would be a downgrade, just because an engine PRODUCES 200Hp it doesn't necassarily mean that he'll be getting those to the wheels..
falkore24
4/15/2008 5:26:18 AM
HP is a ficticious number created for novices to be able to compare engine power from engines that do not perform the same.
HP = ft.lbs. of torque * RPM / 5252
BlkCurrantKord
4/15/2008 7:21:37 AM
The engine bay of the v6 is not bigger than the 4cyl on the 6thgen accords. That only applies to the 5thgen accords.
live2rice
4/15/2008 11:51:54 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: BlkCurrantKord
The engine bay of the v6 is not bigger than the 4cyl on the 6thgen accords. That only applies to the 5thgen accords.
my b i only know 5th gens so assumed it would be the same
and they are both rated for 200hp and i know that obviously whp is diff than bhp, but i'm saying race that v6 vs a h22 accord and see what wins.
falkore24
4/15/2008 12:24:15 PM
Max torque: 195 ft.lbs @ 4700 vs. 156 ft. lbs @ 5250
NO CONTEST!!!
You could even get the one with 11:1 CR that makes 220HP and the J30 would still be better. Why you ask? Re-read my last post.
live2rice
4/15/2008 12:42:49 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: falkore24
Max torque: 195 ft.lbs @ 4700 vs. 156 ft. lbs @ 5250
NO CONTEST!!!
You could even get the one with 11:1 CR that makes 220HP and the J30 would still be better. Why you ask? Re-read my last post.
1999 Honda Accord Coupe LX V-6 7.4 15.8
i'll take a h22
falkore24
4/15/2008 1:14:19 PM
go for it!!! We are comparing the same car with different motors. Now find me a spec on the 6th gen with an unmodded H22.
HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007
4/15/2008 1:51:18 PM
are you joking?do you honestly believe a 6th generation with a stock J30 will not dominate a 6th generation with an H22?wow...you are really clueless... a J30 will leave a H22 behind...there is a HUMONGOUS difference torque.
I am not even going to argue on this issue, because any one here who has a 6th generation accord knows that a J30 and H22 cannot compare.
there is no benefit to swapping a J30 to H22(except the fact that H22 comes in an option of manual or auto, while J30 only has auto).theres just disbenefits. Gas consumption are fairly the same.
The J30 gets 20 MPG,H22 gets 21 MPG
IN CONCLUSION, You'd have to be a complete A** to swap a H22 into the bay of a J30.
live2rice
4/15/2008 1:54:29 PM
i'm agreeing thats its retarded to swap a h22 in, but saying that a h22 would be faster stock for stock as long as the h22 is not a auto, because automatic trannies are the worst thing ever invented
HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007
4/15/2008 7:09:05 PM
H22 stock will not beat a J30(period).true manual would give him an advantage but would not guarantee the race
falkore24
4/15/2008 7:23:59 PM
^^^ not a fair comparison. Same gearbox. A J30 with a manual vs. the H22 will still take it. I'm not sure about the J30 with auto vs. H22 with manual, but I'd expect the auto V6 to win anyway because the 6th gen is just too heavy for the 4 banger to get any kind of pickup. All the axles see is torque.
