New Speakers

Hey All
 
Well I think my speakers are about shot in the rear so I will be getting some new ones soon. 
 
I already have 2 10x10 sound dampening sheets I will be using made by Scosche that I bought today.  Do you think it is worth it or will make any difference?
 
I will have roughly $90 to spend, but would soon like to replace the front speakers as well so if I could do both for that thatd be awesome.  So what should I get?  I have seen that I could get some 5 1/4 and 6x9 Pioneers at Wal-Mart for roughly $90.
I will not be amping my speakers and have no intentions to so I dont need $200 speakers or anything like that.
 
Also, it seems as though my speakers both back and front are louder on the passenger side than the drivers side....any ideas?
 
 
Currently I have an Aiwa Headunit, Volfenhag 500 watt rms subs, Audiobahn amp, Lightning Audios in the front, and roadmasters in the rear.

Hi 19Accord97,
 
Here are some things to keep in mind and some suggestions:
- If you're running of the headunit, you'll need to pay attention to sensitivity of the speaker.  Shoot for 90dB or higher.  This means they are more efficient (play louder with less power).
 
- Save money on the 6x9 and get the most inexpensive yet quality ones you can find.  Use the money on the front speakers.  You'll be hearing more from them and they'll probably distort first.  The 6x9 will provide some bass but since you have subs that's taken care of.  Think of the 6x9 as just something to keep your guests in the back entertained, not much more.
 
- Use the sound deadening sheets on areas where you hear the most rattle (doors or rear rack - where 6x9s go).   You really don't have much so you'll have to find the best use for it.
 
As far as the louder passenger side, check your headunit settings.  If it's really annoying or it throws off the imaging, you can move the balance a bit to the left and that should even things out.  The actual problem can be a number of things (from speakers, to wiring, to the actual HU).
 
Good luck,
Ashur

If I were you, the first thing I'd use the sound mat for is to replace the plastic vapor barier in your doors.  If you put any power into the door, the mid-bass will buzz the plastic. 

For the volume issue, the passanger side may sound louder because your leg is blocking the driver's side speaker.  Try listening from the middle back seat with only the front speakers on.  Also, due to the positioning of the door speakers and the center console, for some reason, reversing the polarity of 1 channel in the front improves the sound stage so you hear the voice in the center of the car rather than everywhere.  Like mentioned, the actual problem may be any number of things.

Polk db speakers are in your price range and I've heard them run from the head unit and they sound very nice.  JVC's are very efficient speakers and are in your range as well, but I think the Polk's sound better.  Don't mix JVC 6x9's and Polk 5.25's ..... that combo sounds like crap! 

I agree that the quality of the front speakers is where you should put your money, however keep in mind that the type of sound from the fronts and rears should be the same.  A Polk is fairly mellow sounding compared to an Infinity which some describe as bright while others think they're shrill.  Your best bet is to go listen to some brands to get the feel for their sound.

Thanks for your help guys!  I will be keeping that in mind.
 
I forget, what is the max depth of speaker for an Accord?  And when you guys installed yours, did you use the little plastic thing the speaker sat in to keep it from getting wet or what?  I planned on using the mat for the rears but I guess ill use them for the front.  I have tried putting just the music to the front and moving my leg but it always seems that the passenger side is louder.  I guess ill have to hop over there and see if that makes the drivers side louder.
 
I guess I will be looking around, but what do you think of the pioneers from Wal-Mart?  They also had some Sonys on clearance for roughly the same price.  Or should I try to get some off eBay?  I dont know if they are 90 db though.

What are componet speakers?
How about these?
2-ways, 3 ways, or what?!
And are you supposed to break in speakers?

Kickers
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-NEW-KICKER-DS525-5-1-4-5-25-140w-CAR-AUDIO-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ280222731927QQihZ018QQcategoryZ38646QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Pioneers
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TWO-NEW-PIONEER-5-1-4-2-WAY-CAR-AUDIO-STEREO-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ180240511793QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38646QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sony
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sony-Xplod-5-1-4-160Watt-4-way-speakers-NIB-NR_W0QQitemZ300222783954QQihZ020QQcategoryZ38646QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Rockford Fosgates (but they are used so idk)
http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/rockford_fosgate_6x9_%28pair%29_%2B_pyle_dvd_headunit/m_122021/tm.htm

I just want some speakers that sound nice, and will compliment my subs.  Also, do I have to stay with the same brand for the front and rears?  I mainly listen to rock, and rap, and hits from today! lol 

I have a pair of 3-way Pioneers from Wally world and they work well.  Stay away from anything that says Xplode on it ..... that's what it will do .... in a mushroom cloud!!!  LOL, but seriously, Sony Xplode stuff sucks.

Those are co-axial speakers, not components.  Components have separate woofers and tweeters and also have an external crossover.  Of those, I'd choose the Pioneers to match the Pioneer 6x9's mentioned ..... in my case, the 6x9's that I already have.  I haven't decided if I am going to sell them or not yet, but that might happen fairly soon because I can use a little cash for the crazy upgrading that I am in the middle of.

Stay away from 3 ways that have a mid bass, a tweeter, and a "super" tweeter. Thats a just a sales gimmick and are usually worse quality then real 2 ways. If the three way has a woofer, a mid bass, and a tweeter now thats a real 3 way setup. Also I had some kicker speakers in my last car, they were ok nothing special. They did seem durable though if thats a factor for your, but I only ran them for about a year so I don't really know.

My Pioneers have a 2.5" mid I think .... either way, I got them really cheap!  A friend got them with an employee discount and was lazy about installing them.  Then he sold the car and they were mine for $20.  Couldn't argue that one ..... unused speakers?!?

Alright guys, I really need a new set of speakers asap.  Right now I am focusing on the front and will get some for the rears shortly.  I want a quality pair that sound great w/o being amped and wont blow.  These are all roughly $30. HELP!
 
Pioneers.  (Are these cheap b/c they suck?)
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-TS-G1341R-5-1-4-5-25-COAXIAL-CAR-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ110250483995QQihZ001QQcategoryZ32819QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Volfenhag  Same brand as subs.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-VOLFENHAG-5-25-350w-CAR-STEREO-2-WAY-SPEAKERS-5-1-4_W0QQitemZ280225509157QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14941QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Kenwood
http://cgi.ebay.com/PAIR-07-NEW-260w-5-25-5-1-4-KENWOOD-AUDIO-CAR-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ280224713213QQihZ018QQcategoryZ14941QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
Audiobahn.  Same brand as amp and more expensive
http://cgi.ebay.com/AUDIOBAHN-5-25-5-1-4-320-WATT-CAR-AUDIO-SPEAKER-SET-08_W0QQitemZ320250075097QQihZ011QQcategoryZ14941QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
Please, let me know if one of these speakers will fit or not.  I know Honda uses shallow mounting speakers but I dont remember what the max depth is.  THANK YOU ALL

At that low a price point, theres not going to be much difference between them.  Theyre all going to be basic and average.  

Theyll be better than stock though right?  The Pioneers.  Still debating though.
 
Also, for speakers that can take roughly 200watts rms will they sound horrible if they only get like 25 watts?  Or will the sound fine like any other speaker.

My Pioneers can handle 240W rms and I'm only powering them from my deck, they get quite loud, but no distortion. I think you'll be fine.

If your not going to amp them then you need efficient speakers, look for 90db+ sensitivity. The closer you get to the rated power and the more efficient they are they better it will sound. If you give a speaker rated for 80w with a sensitivity of 89, 25 watts it will sound weak and muffled. But like Macleod said in this price range there aren't going to be any extravagant differences.

Alright, thanks for your help guys.
 
Since you guys are obviously pros with audio (I appreciate the help) which of the three do you think would be the best of the listed above?
 
Pioneers
Kenwoods
Audiobahns
 
 
Once I know, I am gonna grab em.  Thanks.

Of those the Pioneer defiantly. They have a rating of 25watts RMS and a sensitivity of 91 so thats what your looking for if your not going to amp them. Audiobahns and Volfenhags build quality is really sub par, they're all for show as my buddy says. They will defiantly sound better than stock, if you have never really heard a good system setup properly you will be satisfied. 

Thanks man!
One more question though.
 
Are those Pioneers better than my Lightning Audios that I have now?  $40 ones.  I think they are pretty crappy.

I just purchased them!
Ill be ordering a set of 6x9's probably later tonight. 
Might just get another set of Pionners for the rears.
 
EDIT:
Just realiized my door speakers are 6 1/2.  Are 5 1/4 oks, or am I missing something I could have had w/ the 6 1/2s?

You will be fine, but you will need a baffle (I suggest one made of MDF) to compensate for the larger opening.  You can make one yourself by tracing the stock plastic baffle.  When you are done, make sure the baffle is sealed to the door (get some sound deadener, and cover the gaps).  With 6.5's, you'll have more midbass and with 5.25's you'll have more midrange.  IMO, it would be easier to go with the 6.5's if you still haven't bought them yet.

Thanks!
 
I already purchased them...darn.
 
I have a couple sheets of sound deadner from Scosche.  My plan is to buy some adapter plates from Best Buy (if they arent a complete rip off), secure the adapter, cover it with the sheet of sound deadener then cut out the hole for the speaker.
 
Because I have subs, I am guessing it actually is better that I have speakers for more midrange.

I've installed Polk 5.25" shallow mounts in the doors of my last gf's 6th gen sedan.  They fit the stock 6.5" mounts fine.  All I had to do was cut the back of the basket off with a hacksaw, then ground it clean on my table grinder .... a dremmel would've been easier, but still, 5 minutes?!?

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ORIGINAL: falkore24

I've installed Polk 5.25" shallow mounts in the doors of my last gf's 6th gen sedan.  They fit the stock 6.5" mounts fine.  All I had to do was cut the back of the basket off with a hacksaw, then ground it clean on my table grinder .... a dremmel would've been easier, but still, 5 minutes?!?

 
Bah!
I can't seem to win!
I did that too, and cut alot more then that to get my stupid Lightning Audio 6 1/2's in there.
 
I guess when I put these in ill have to see how much those mounts are or how much the adapters are.  Nothing is easy to do anymore!!!!

Nothing wrong with 5.25's at all so long as theyre QUALITY speakers.

I ran 5.25's all last season in MECA and picked up my 2nd straight state championship and my 2nd straight 2nd place finish at world finals. 

Gary Biggs won humpteen dozen world championships with 5.25's. 

True the 6.5's will have more midbass but the 5.25's will generally have better midrange, be easier to dial in the imaging and still have very decent midbass output.  Plus you can make up for most of the difference with a little fancy tuning with the sub.

Thanks MacLeod!

I have been so busy w/ finals, does BB have the adapters or will it be a total rip off? I cant see them being more than a few bucks a piece.

I think the only tuning on my amplifier is
Bass Boost
Gain
and I forget this one
Then there is a  switch for spf and hpf? I think

On my HU it gives me seperate controls for bass, low, mid, and highs.  All go from -10 (off) to +10

The other one should be the low pass filter. No clue what the SPF and HPF are...

On my HU it has a built-in crossover for the fronts, rears, and subs. Very handy.