quick question - speakers

i was about to go and buy some boston pro60s for my 03 accord 2-dr.  then i got a PM from a fellow 03 accord 2-dr owner and he said the front speakers are 5.25" NOT 6.5" (crutchfield said 6.5").  is this true?
 
and are the rears 6x9's like crutchfield says? or no?

the rears in my 04 sedan look like 6x9's i havent looked at the doors yet so i would not know but everybody says theyre 6.5's

well it may be different for sedans

that may very well be the case im a lil tempted to go outside to check now but im being a bit lazy...

its too dark for me to be disassembling my car so ill jsut check in the morning what am i supposed to measure?

yeah, well i dunno where u live, buts its 1:30am here in philly and i gotta wake up for class at 7 so im out.  later.  and thanx

the width of the speaker

Ok here is the deal. The stock speaker size is 6.5" in the doors in both sedans and coupes; but the hole in the door is not big enough to fit a normal 6.5" speaker. The stock speaker sticks out about an inch from the door. So the hole only needs to be as big as the back of the cone. Your gonna have to trim the door with a jig saw, which really is easy. Also any speaker with a mounting depth of more then 2" you will need a baffle. HERE is a link on how to make a baffle and properly deaden your doors.

wait are you saying we have to cut the grill out of the door? 

nope, you just cut the hole in the door (the metal part) behind the grill a bit bigger in diameter

well do u need to do that?  what if i just make a 3/4" MDF baffle, will that allow enough room for the comps without cutting?

ive seen that thread squeak wrote pefor, and i was planning on going off it for my install anyways.  just gotta make sure i can fit a 3/4" MDF ring behind the door panel neatly

or...use a spacer to fit a 5.25" speaker.  i just did that the other day.

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well do u need to do that?  what if i just make a 3/4" MDF baffle, will that allow enough room for the comps without cutting?

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ive seen that thread squeak wrote pefor, and i was planning on going off it for my install anyways.  just gotta make sure i can fit a 3/4" MDF ring behind the door panel neatly

Honestly you could try, you've got about 2-3 inches between the metal and the door panel, so you could even try 1". The best way to do it would be to cut the metal. Its really isn't difficult to cut with a jig saw, the hole doesn't need to be pretty just not too big or too small.

i just really dont wanna cut my new car, ya know

You do have to cut the doors if you want 6.5's to fit properly unless theyre really small 6.5's.
 
If you just build a 3/4" spacer, the magnet will go thru the hole but the panel will block off pretty much all the open air space behind the cone.  This is bad.  It will kill virtually all your midbass and make the speakers sound very thin.
 
If you dont want to cut, use a GOOD QUALITY 5.25.  It will fit better and since it will have proper air space it will sound much better.
 
Im running 5.25's in mine and am doing quite well in sound quality competitions. 

anywhere i could get a pic of what your talkin about.  im havin trouble picturing it.  also, any tutorials on removing the door panel.  i dont wanna break any clips like in my blazer

I just had a pair of JL Audio XR650-CSi 6 1/2" mid range speakers installed in the front doors of my '04 Accord EX 4cyl. They went in without a problem. Just a spacer. I also replaced the tweeters with Memphis Audio MC15-MT1S 1" silk dome tweeters. I did not put them in the factory location but had them mounted on the door panel above and to the right of the mids. Imaging and presence is dramatically improved over the factory placement though I had to lose the stealth factory mounts.
I did not use the JL aluminum tweets that come with this component set because they are a bit too harsh for my taste. The Memphis tweets are much smoother with no loss of the highs.
I have heard a pair of 5 1/2" JL XR650's in my friends '04 Accord and notice very little loss of mid range over the 6 1/2's.

Im really suprised they fit.  Those XR's aint small.
 
Maybe Honda went to the smaller cutout for the factory speakers in the later years cause the openings I have, there is no way to fit a 6.5 in there without a 1" spacer and then it chokes off the venting.
 
I feel ya on the aluminum tweeters.  Im a huge fan of everything JL but wish they would go to a soft dome tweeter.  MB Quart is the only company that makes a metal dome tweet that I like but theyre using titanium.

Does anyone know if componet speakers are worth the extra $$. Or should I get the reg. size 5.25 speakers.( Both are Polk Audio.)

well i think the components will be worth it if you install the tweeters somewhere near your ears instead of the stock locations. unless youre lazy like me cause i bought components and still have yet to install the crossover and tweeters. i was planning on putting the tweeters in the stock locations for stealth but the a pillar will sound better.

Go with components if you are able to. I am not a fan of the factory location of the tweeters. Mine are mounted on the door panels above and to the right of the speakers. To me they look fine and the imaging and presence are worth it.
I agree on the MB Quart speakers MacLeod. They had been my favorite speakers for years but in my current location, Northern NY, none of the local shops carry them and I generally prefer to listen to a speaker before buying. I liked the JL's at first but after awhile the harshness of the tweeters was more than I cared for and when switching over from one car to my Accord I went with the Memphis tweets and am extremely satisfied.

I installed a set of Polk slim-fit 5.25 2-ways in my gf's 01 sedan.  They fit with the stock brackets, slightly modified.  All you have to do is cut the back off of the basket to give the extra eighth of an inch that these speakers need.  The screws fit the new speakers.

I have 6.5" MB Quartz components and they fit fine as well.  My MB Quartz's are fully custom mounted to the stock brackets.  I removed the entire basket and sealed the speakers to the bracket with black silicone caulk.  The tweeters are similarly mounted to the stock tweeter grilles.

i was considering putting my tweets in the factory location but i have no idea how to route wires from the crossovers that i will install in the doors to the tweeter locations. care to share?
 
i think it was Macleod who said that placing the new tweets on the little triangle piece will also sound better. i was just a little hesitant because my tweeters looked a tad cheesy because they had chrome grills but i decided to paint them black. still a little unsure

my x-overs are in the trunk.  I wouldn't put anything in the doors that doesn't need to be there ..... to avoid the potential for rattling.  Also, I squeezed the wire for the woofers through the stock rubber ..... what a nightmare!   If you cut the wire boot, it would be easier, but then the boot has a slit in it.

MacLeod is right concerning the placement and aiming, however I didn't think that the hassle or cosmetic were worth the "technically" better sound.  The difference might be slightly noticable, but I'm not competing like MacLeod is.

MacLeod's sugggestion to reverse wire one front door speaker works beautifully and doesn't require much work.  Try it!!   I did and that is how mine are going to stay!