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ncsgoofy
8/3/2006 1:27:30 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/90-02-HONDA-ACCORD-GREDDY-T3-T4-TURBO-CHARGER-KIT-F22_W0QQitemZ260015828015QQihZ016QQcategoryZ33742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I dont know much about turbos, looks like all i need is a manifold. Ill replace the BOV with a raptor later, and maybe replace the turbo. Comments...
sir_nasty
8/3/2006 2:44:55 PM
I'm not turbo genius but I'm concerned since guys here are piecing together kits for $1500.00 which is a good price but this guy is selling it for $480 without the manifold/down pipe ($400.00 part or so...) and a cheap wastegate from what I can see... Also, he's got a decent amount of bad feedback about shipping and a few people who recieved the wrong item, returned it and appear to not ever have recieved the proper item... I'd call him first and get in touch with them to find out what the catch is.... I'm a skeptic and typically when something looks to good to be true it is...
ncsgoofy
8/3/2006 2:48:11 PM
Has anyone put a turbo kit in the 90-93 f22a1's? I look at the engine compartment, ive got to say it'll be tight.
sir_nasty
8/3/2006 2:53:26 PM
check out this post:
http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/m_12332/tm.htm

PM a few of those guys... I can't recall what cars they have but there's is turboed... Also, on that turbo kit it may not be to far off since your downpipe and manifold could put you up to about $600.00 more... so the kit, a decent wastegate and controller plus the downpipe and manifold you may be at $1200.00 or so... definitly PM those guys though they've done it firsthand.
ncsgoofy
8/3/2006 2:58:00 PM
I looking to just put 6-8 psi through, just for fun. Would the wastegate and controller due, or should i really just go with quailty parts?
marbro
8/3/2006 6:05:17 PM
ok first, the wastegate is a good one, its basically the lowest turbosmart wastegate out there, 35mm but its a solid wastegate and i think mbo has been running with it the whole time, but it will have a 15 psi spring in it.... i got the wastegate,bov, fmic, and charge piping for a guy with the exact same layout nothing wrong with the charge piping that i got other then the clamps were too big, oh.... and it looks thicker cause of the paint lol, but you still have to spend about 50 bucks to have the bov flange welded on. the manifold would cost about 300 and the downpipe about 250 you would need the turbo to manifold screws, and the turbo to downpipe screws, plus 2 extra wastegate screws other then that the bov shown is a flip of the coin, as long as the valve moves, and moves easier when theres suction on the hose line, youll be fine

oh and if the turbo is as pictured, it is the same thing mbo and i have
sir_nasty
8/3/2006 6:26:51 PM
man it's sweet having this many people on hand with first hand knowledge.... gotta love those responses.... this isn't the fastest board out there but there is more knowledge and more accurate repsonses/fixes than ANYWHERE I've seen...
lightshow
8/3/2006 6:32:27 PM
yes i have installed turbos on 90-93 f22a1-4-6 before. and there are other people on the site that have too. if you have any problems with your turbo install let us know.
ncsgoofy
8/3/2006 10:27:21 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: marbro
but it will have a 15 psi spring in it.... i got the wastegate,bov, fmic, and charge piping for a guy with the exact same layout nothing wrong with the charge piping that i got other then the clamps were too big, oh.... and it looks thicker cause of the paint lol, but you still have to spend about 50 bucks to have the bov flange welded on. the manifold would cost about 300 and the downpipe about 250 you would need the turbo to manifold screws, and the turbo to downpipe screws, plus 2 extra wastegate screws other then that the bov shown is a flip of the coin, as long as the valve moves, and moves easier when theres suction on the hose line, youll be fine

oh and if the turbo is as pictured, it is the same thing mbo and i have

I want to run at MOST 8 psi, would i need a new spring or...

Charging pipe?...Sorry i dont know much.




Besides the manifold ,screws, and downpipe...Anything else, like hose, etc..
ncsgoofy
8/3/2006 10:31:01 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: lightshow

yes i have installed turbos on 90-93 f22a1-4-6 before. and there are other people on the site that have too. if you have any problems with your turbo install let us know.




looks like it will be really tight fit, i migh need help later on the intercooling pipe layout.
mbo1985
8/3/2006 10:56:11 PM
That is a decent wastegate... like marbro said, that's what I have been using the whole time. Not one problem. hit max boost and it just stays there, no surge or flux.

If it comes with a 15 psi spring (mine did!) you WILL need to change that. Your car will run like crap when you floor it since you will most likely max your fuel system out and the motor will get funky...

It will be a tight fit. I had to trim the shrouding on the radiator fans, and remove the washer fluid tank (I replaced it with a tiny container, plus trim the sheet metal where the washer neck came through, etc. But it will fit. And with room to spare.
ncsgoofy
8/3/2006 11:09:23 PM

quote:

ORIGINAL: mbo1985

That is a decent wastegate... like marbro said, that's what I have been using the whole time. Not one problem. hit max boost and it just stays there, no surge or flux.

If it comes with a 15 psi spring (mine did!) you WILL need to change that. Your car will run like crap when you floor it since you will most likely max your fuel system out and the motor will get funky...

It will be a tight fit. I had to trim the shrouding on the radiator fans, and remove the washer fluid tank (I replaced it with a tiny container, plus trim the sheet metal where the washer neck came through, etc. But it will fit. And with room to spare.


Can i just pick up another of Ebay or where ever, like a 8 psi.




Where did you get youre downpipe? I cant seem to find one.

Ok so i NEED to buy the kit, manifold, downpipe, screws, anything else. Whats this FMU ive been reading about?
ncsgoofy
8/3/2006 11:29:05 PM
WheelBrokerAng
8/4/2006 12:26:44 AM
OBX products have been in some of my cars for 5 years already, they make many good engine parts + other good units for other parts of your ride..plus they are made well and look like good quality...

WheelbrokerAng
marbro
8/4/2006 8:39:54 AM
its the difference of design, but the second is refered to as a log style manifold, The one i have is similar to that but mine is one specifically from the drag turbo kit, and depending on which one you get will depend on the downpipe that you get. the obx one by design is more effecient because it channels the exhaust gases to the turbine of the turbo vs the log style which just lets the gases turbulently flow to the turbine which means its not flowing as fast as it could, but the log style takes up less space in the end, thats basically the trade off might be the difference of 100rpm spool time? not sure on that tho
ncsgoofy
8/4/2006 12:02:44 PM
Ok so i'll buy the OBX soon, where can i find a downpipe?

I just bought a oil feed kit, 8 psi WG spring, and a synapse MAP thingy. Im so excited. So all i have left is the kit, manifold, downpipe. Anything else i need. I dont know much about turbos but i learn fast.
mbo1985
8/4/2006 6:21:17 PM
You can either purchase a down pipe from a drag turbo kit, or keep your eye open for one on ebay or you could buy some pipe and fabricate one yourself. And the last option would be to leave it to an exhaust shop.

I found a used down pipe on ebay (I checked every day till I found one) and modified it for my application. This is the hardest piece to find, but it isn't hard to make one.
ncsgoofy
8/4/2006 10:24:06 PM
Will another downpipe work? like from a H22 or something? I know i good exhaust place close to me, but would rather not spent the money.
mbo1985
8/4/2006 11:03:46 PM
The H one would probably work, but you'll probably have to rotate the flanges and re-weld them. Hopefully you won't (I had to), but you will if the flange doesn't line up with turbo 100%
ncsgoofy
8/4/2006 11:17:38 PM
tom15425
8/5/2006 1:28:05 AM
Backwards a little in the discuss, but doesn't a log manifold also have less chance of cracking and less heat radiance since it has less surface area?
mbo1985
8/5/2006 11:56:56 AM
that's what I've heard. less heat radiance would make perfect sense for the reason you stated.
marbro
8/5/2006 12:31:48 PM
and the good log styles are made of cast iron instead of stainless steel
9JordonFlex9
8/13/2006 12:31:00 AM
Go right ahead and buy a cheap turbo...smart. Everyone looks for the best price, but why buy something that gives a WAY bigger chance of not working, exploding, leading, blowing motor, so forth so on, then instead of a well backed name kit? Sure its 3k or so...but you can trust it, as long as you install it right, and keep up with it...tune it, so forth so on again...any kit can go bad if not installed right, ebay is not a place to buy kits....I am sure the parts aren't that good....why would they sell it on ebay and not have a committed site selling those kits? Think about that....500-1200 for a cheap/worthless kit that might last a few runs/drives....I dont trust ebay with buy large parts like that......Be smart, spend the extra 2k now instead of 10K even more when blowing it up possibly and gettin a rental/junker/new car even....
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