superballz00
7/15/2007 11:20:11 PM
My car is at the 90k mark and the spark plugs need to be replaced for the third time. Can I use the NGK platinum plugs or are there any other plugs that will for for my car that won't have to be replaced every 30k miles?
00AccordLX5spd
7/17/2007 9:50:52 AM
Most people here will tell you to only use NGK plats. I put Denso's (AutoZone was out of NGK's) in my wife's 95 V6 and have not had a problem.
But please, do not put Bosch plugs in. Your Honda will beat you if you do that.
smaglik
7/17/2007 10:06:10 AM
who do (or dont) bosch plugs do that is unacceptable?
00AccordLX5spd
7/17/2007 11:18:31 AM
I don't remember exactly, but I remember people talking about rough running issues and/or causing the distributor to need replacement. Basically I think Honda's are allergic to them.
mck52689
7/17/2007 12:46:57 PM
whooo, i was about to buy those to replace... props to 00accordlx ill go with ngk i guess now
00AccordLX5spd
7/17/2007 12:59:22 PM
Yeah the NGK plats are pricey, but I've heard they are worth it. I think the OEM replacement plugs are the double plats which run around $12 a pop. So if you got a V6, that's $72 just for plugs!
mck52689
7/17/2007 1:24:16 PM
haha wow... wait what would be 12 bucks a pop? the ngks or oem... because my brother told me for his mazdaspeed he uses ngk and they are only like 6 bucks each
sir_nasty
7/17/2007 1:38:59 PM
OEM NGK's for a 97 aren't that expensive....
as for the bosch thing what they figure or have determined is that they run a different resistance and this causes your ignitor/coil to overheat (inside the distributor) and then it fries, and it's not a cheap part.... They aren't bad plugs but they are bad for most imports, Just a few months after I joined the forum I was talking with a friend of mine and he was telling me how he helped out a guy we both know. The car was running like crap and then wouldn't start, bad ignitor/coil, they replaced it and a couple of months later it did it again, they determined through trial and error that it was overheating, so the rigged it outside of the distributor to the fender well with some longer wires etc and never had a problem again. I said to him "I bet you have bosch plugs in there don't you?" he looked at me like he had seen a ghost and admitted that they were but wondered why I asked, I told him, they switched to NGK and never had a problem again. So I have personally witnessed what happens...
00AccordLX5spd
7/17/2007 1:52:53 PM
OK...this is wierd. I just checked sparkplugs.com. When I was replacing the plugs on my 95 it said oem was part#PZFR5F-11 which are the double plats ($11.71 each). Now it says ZFR5F-11 which are not even platinum(V power) & only run $2.44 each. That's wierd. I have always been told Honda OEM's were the NGK double plats. That is the part number(PZFR5F-11) deserthonda always gives anyway. I'm confused.
sir_nasty
7/17/2007 2:10:01 PM
Desert usually lists the ZFR5F-11 plugs, I think that's what he uses on most everything except maybe some of the newer distributorless cars..
00AccordLX5spd
7/17/2007 2:49:08 PM
I see how I got confused.
On this thread he recommends ZFR5F-11:
http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/m_28653/tm.htm On this thread he recommends PZFR5F-11:
http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/m_44340/tm.htm Do you think the second one was a typo? Or is it becuase the first thread is referring to a 1990 Accord and the second thread is referring to a 2004 Accord?(I guess that would make sense) I know at AZ they at least said my 95 V6 OEM were platinum plugs.
Maybe DH will see this thread & explain.
jamoke59
7/18/2007 12:00:35 AM
I have a 96 accord LX coupe 2.2 litre,the last time I bought plugs for it ( its time for new ones now) I got them from Honda and they told me platnum plugs were not recomended for the vehicle/engine hum"
JimBlake
7/18/2007 8:00:52 AM
quote:
ORIGINAL: 00AccordLX5spd
... Or is it becuase the first thread is referring to a 1990 Accord and the second thread is referring to a 2004 Accord?
I'm betting it's because of different years. Can you look it up in your own owner's manual?
ZFR5F-11 for my '98
IZFR6K-11 for my '03
PFR6G-13 for my (former) '95 GSR
So.... they're not all the same.
00AccordLX5spd
7/18/2007 11:43:41 AM
Oh yeah.
That one is amied at me! Sorry. I didn't even think about it being in the owner's manual. I'll check it out when I get the '95 back. My wife's mom has it till next weekend.
JimBlake
7/18/2007 1:17:57 PM
quote:
ORIGINAL: 00AccordLX5spd
Oh yeah. That one is amied at me!...
I wasn't really aiming it at YOU. Just sort of a general reminder that all 30 years & a dozen different engines; not ALL accords are exactly alike.
smaglik
7/18/2007 1:25:31 PM
It was handed in a nice and civl manner. There was no need for me to use the newly christened 'pissing match' icon.
jamoke59
7/18/2007 2:11:12 PM
Hum" I"ll have to check the owners manual and do a bit more research,it never hurts to double check.
superballz00
7/18/2007 10:14:00 PM
well honda had an emission thing on the car so they replaced the plugs, wires, caps, and the thing the wires goes to for free. They said they only used the reg plugs that lasts only 30k miles. so i guess i'll use the double plats the next time i replaced them.
oh yeah and the mechanic said that the from engine mount is cracked and that i should have it replaced before the vibration causes the other 3 mounts to crack as well. is it easy to do it on my own? if not how much should it cost for labor?
