stock resonator chamber

so i bought a k&n replacement panel air filter for my l4 04 accord. now im kind of wishing i bought a cai; then again the wife doesnt want a lot of mods done because of cost, and because of selling it in the future.
 
anywho, i was investigating this nasty restrictive intake honda put in my car. if any, how much would i gain from removing the "resonator chamber" and leaving just the stock tube and cleaner (w/ k&n).

example of this resonator chamber, below.

It's not worth the effort in my opinion. Also there are baffles built into it to keep water out. I suggest you buy a short ram, remove the box the filter sits in now (save everything)  but leave the resonator alone. You'll enjoy a bit more power, a nice sound, and you can convert it back to stock anytime you want.

I took it out...but it kinda rumbles/rattles around at idle when I'm in D. A minor annoyance I suppose. The car still thinks to pull air from where the resonator used to be.

I did this and I think it is worthwhile, I noticed a nice sound improvement (not annoying loud, some would say you cant notice anything) and a bit of an increase in acceleration.  I actully cut the top tube off the resonator and used the rubber tube that connects it to the air box and some 4" pipe clamps and it pulls air from where an aftermarket CAI would in front of the wheels down in the front bumper.  Only problem with this is as stated you could pull up some water, but that is very unlikely unless you are off roading in a lake.
 
I will be upgrading to a V2 at some point but wanted to do this to see if there was any noticable difference and there was.  Too much restriction on the stock air intake.

All that work for some minor gains, just get what you intended to get and you will get the performance you want.  When I was younger I used to do things the cheap way and it always bit me in the ass, as of course with age if you do things right the first time you won't have any problems.....

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All that work for some minor gains, just get what you intended to get and you will get the performance you want.  When I was younger I used to do things the cheap way and it always bit me in the ass, as of course with age if you do things right the first time you won't have any problems.....

 
whats so cheap about it?  All he is doing is removing the stock resonator, something you would need to do to put on a CAI anyway.  Even if you dont put in a CAI, it removes a lot of the restrictive air flow to the engine, that is a good thing.  Yeah it may not be a V2 but for someone who wants to see if it makes any difference why not, it isnt going to hurt anything, it will only make your car louder and that is a very relative term.
 
There is nothing cheap about what I did either, i didnt jerry rig up some CAI in place of the stock air box.  I am jsut simply removing components one at a time.  I wanted to see if there was anything noticable from just removing the resonator, So I added in a pipe to pull the air from a bit lower like a true CAI would, so what?  Now I have a base line to compare what a stock set up with resonator is like, to a stock setup without resonator, then finally to a V2 setup.  Now when someone asks what If I do this (just like the OP did) I actually have useful comparisons from what I did to be able to supple to someone.

my excuse for removing it..... the thing weighs like 10 pounds....  are you going to complain about making your car 10 pounds lighter?

No....the resonator is like 4-5 lbs. It's just plastic. Or at least it just felt like 4-5 lbs.

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ORIGINAL: otsb708

All that work for some minor gains, just get what you intended to get and you will get the performance you want.  When I was younger I used to do things the cheap way and it always bit me in the ass, as of course with age if you do things right the first time you won't have any problems.....

whats so cheap about it?  All he is doing is removing the stock resonator, something you would need to do to put on a CAI anyway.  Even if you dont put in a CAI, it removes a lot of the restrictive air flow to the engine, that is a good thing.  Yeah it may not be a V2 but for someone who wants to see if it makes any difference why not, it isnt going to hurt anything, it will only make your car louder and that is a very relative term.

There is nothing cheap about what I did either, i didnt jerry rig up some CAI in place of the stock air box.  I am jsut simply removing components one at a time.  I wanted to see if there was anything noticable from just removing the resonator, So I added in a pipe to pull the air from a bit lower like a true CAI would, so what?  Now I have a base line to compare what a stock set up with resonator is like, to a stock setup without resonator, then finally to a V2 setup.  Now when someone asks what If I do this (just like the OP did) I actually have useful comparisons from what I did to be able to supple to someone.

Besides everything else, why would you want to take apart the wheelwell and then have to put everything back together again, unless you have ample amounts of time on your hands. That would get annoying.  It just sounds like a waste of time to me.  The stock airbox isn't going to be anywhere near the gains you would have with ANY CAI or even an SRI.  It is too restrictive no matter how much you cut out of it.  Once again, get the right part in the first place and you will be happier in the end.

eh, the box with all of it was more then 10 pounds lol  minor technicality ^_^
 
and dont complain about too much time when working on a car, if you cant justify taking the time to fully remove something that you most likely are never going to use again, dont bother taking the time to do much of anything else with a car.....  cause you know..... it would be too much of a waste of time

^ Exactly. Right on the money.

That's why these we're here. Money, time, and blood. 3 things that keep an Accord happy.

See people you are missing the point, I dont know how else to explain it to you.  No kidding just keeping the stock airbox isnt going to give you the same gains as a V2, no matter what you remove, thanks captain obvious.

The point is that some poeple want to see what, if anything just removing something as simple as the resonator could or will do.  It took me all of 30 minutes on a saturday to accomplish this, WOW huge waste of time.  Actually aside from taking off the tire again and some fender well trim when it comes time to put in the V2 I wont be overlapping any labor.  Now I dont have to remove the resonator, that is like 20 minutes of time saved when it comes to final installation.  Man the 10 minute loss that it will take me to take the wheel off and some of the fender well trim is a killer!!!!!

I dont gather many of you as people who tend to do any research or testing of anything do you?  When you do controlled tests you change one variable at a time.  my first variable is removing the resonator.  Do you not see the point here?  Just because you think it is a waste of time doesnt mean it is.  Try to comprehend the principle behind something like this before making retarded statements like it is a waste or stupid or cheap alternative.  It is actually quite a relevant test.

OMG a controlled test on the air intake on a vehicle, what a waste of time!!!  Yes I may being going to the extreme but that is the engineer in me.
 
FYI this post was most dedicated to OTSB and anyone who thinks something of this nature is pointless and a waste. 

Try to comprehend the principle behind something like this before making retarded statements like it is a waste or stupid or cheap alternative.  It is actually quite a relevant test.
 
It is only relevant to YOU and others that care to do it. We are only expressing opinions here so lighten up. To me it is a total waste of time but to you it's not..... Big Deal. You have your opinions and I have mine. Chill with the rant on other members, it's merely a discussion after all. Be respectful of others opinions as I am of yours.

Actually I am lightened up, I dont have any hard feelings, the OP didnt ask for opinions on doing this, he specifically asked if there were any gains.
 
I dont find calling something that I do "cheap" and then also procede to go on to tell me that with age I will learn to do it the "right way" first, not insulting.
 
It doesnt bother me, I was simply just trying to explain what the benefits of carrying out a procedure like this is. I dont care if you or anyone else thinks it is stupid and a waste of time because I know it may be to some of you but that IS NOT the point, the point was trying to explain the PROCEDURE behind it. I am far from uneducated on anything to do with the mechanics of engines, I minored in internal combustion engines coming out of college.
 
If you or anyone were to say "Hey I understand the procedure of doing it this way, but to me it is a waste of time"  I would have moved along and not felt the need to comment again, because I would understand not everyone is going think the same way.
 
In conclusion I am not ranting, I was completely respectful of other opinions, problem was they were not of mine. 

Calling other's statements "retarded" is far from respectful in my book but so be it. I too like to do little experiments with my car that others may think differently about. Like yourself I feel that it's my time and I'll do with it what I please. For instance, I spend a little time every day keeping our cars looking their best inside and out. Others think I'm nuts! Fine with me but I don't call them retarded.

Anyway, I do hope the starter of this thread, which is way off topic now (and that's my fault), comes to a decision about what to do in his particular case.

so i know this is sort of old.... but i got around to removing that chamber. fyi it is possible to do with the wheel on without any jacking. it was tough though.
 
i would say that i removed close to 10 lbs with it gone. got a littl more sound and i held my hand in front of what was left of the intake, and revved her up, seems to suck a lot of air for such a small engine. anyway theres my 2 cents.
 
btw this site helped a lot... http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/avm-22511.pdf