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Honda Electrical Load Detection (ELD) Bypass

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Old 07-19-2014, 06:08 PM
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eh, i've been too busy to even work on my own car. mine now has 8,300 miles in under 3 months.

i'm getting ready to put an amp in and will then be motivated to test and evaluate the alternator bypass.
 
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Old 07-23-2014, 12:28 PM
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Can't wait to hear what you find. I went ahead and installed my amps and ran the wire but only hooked up the 100x2 for the front stage. No issues so far from that little one.
 
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After many searches, I keep coming back to this thread as being the most beneficial. I am having the same issue on a 1990 Accord EX, however, I have not properly identified the ELD on this car yet. I am 90% sure I have found it, but no dice yet. I have two photos below that I have taken with my cell phone. Sectioned in red on the second is what I "think" is the ELD, there is a small connector with 3 conductions; green/red, black/yellow, black. The colors coordinate with your write up, also, on a cold start I am seeing 14.5V at my rear battery and measuring 14.55v up front at the alternator. The DC voltage between the green/red and black at idle is about 2.49V. These factors lead me to believe that I have found the ELD, yet my OEM honda manual (the real shop manual) does not depict the ELD anywhere, so I am still guessing.

Also, hopefully I will be able to write up a dual alternator installation for this car soon. This is my dedicated SPL car, and we cannot having any voltage drops... I have already had it drop to 12.5v on me many times while playing music at full tilt, which was I was not enthusiastic about, and I hate having to have the a/c blower motor on the low speed in order to draw enough current to have the ELD excite the alternator.

Also, keephopealive, what audio forums are you on? I have seen your user name somewhere, diyaudio, caraudioclassifieds, or another. I cannot remember at this time.

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Old 08-18-2014, 07:51 PM
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That is the ELD.

Terminal no. 1 Blk wire is ground at G251.
Terminal no. 2 Grn/Red wire is load output to ECU.
Terminal no. 3 Blk/Yel wire is ignition power.
 
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Originally Posted by redbull-1
That is the ELD.

Terminal no. 1 Blk wire is ground at G251.
Terminal no. 2 Grn/Red wire is load output to ECU.
Terminal no. 3 Blk/Yel wire is ignition power.
Exactly what I was hoping to hear, thank you for your swift response!
 
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Old 08-19-2014, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by twentyhurtz
After many searches, I keep coming back to this thread as being the most beneficial. I am having the same issue on a 1990 Accord EX, however, I have not properly identified the ELD on this car yet. I am 90% sure I have found it, but no dice yet. I have two photos below that I have taken with my cell phone. Sectioned in red on the second is what I "think" is the ELD, there is a small connector with 3 conductions; green/red, black/yellow, black. The colors coordinate with your write up, also, on a cold start I am seeing 14.5V at my rear battery and measuring 14.55v up front at the alternator. The DC voltage between the green/red and black at idle is about 2.49V. These factors lead me to believe that I have found the ELD, yet my OEM honda manual (the real shop manual) does not depict the ELD anywhere, so I am still guessing.
Redbull is right. for your application you can just simulate the voltage drop with a resistor in the end of the connector.

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Also, keephopealive, what audio forums are you on? I have seen your user name somewhere, diyaudio, caraudioclassifieds, or another. I cannot remember at this time.
I am on 6 other forums that i am active on and registered for probably a dozen more. I am the only one using "keep_hope_alive" all are audio or car audio based. mobileaudioforum, caraudio, driveaccord, caraudiojunkies, diyma, sounddomain, phoenixphorums, diyaudio, mobilesoundscienceforum, clubsciontc, smd, and others i don't have shortcuts for.
 
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:47 PM
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Did you get your amp installed?
 
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Old 08-20-2014, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MANTI5
Did you get your amp installed?
Who is this directed toward?

I got mine in.
 
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Old 08-21-2014, 04:23 AM
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To you, yes. You said you would look at a bypass once you got your amp in, did you find out anything?
 
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I'd love to have this little black box, but until there is enough demand and the car is older, I don't see it happening. It's $$$$ and time in R&D to figure out how to get a beefier alt to run on the newer accords without any issues with the ECU. Does anyone know what all companies in addition to Rush are working on it?
 

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