!995 Accord Balance Shaft Belt
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!995 Accord Balance Shaft Belt
When installing the balance belt using a 6 MM bolt to hold the rear shaft from moving it still allows the gear to move what looks like a tooth on the sprocket. How do I get the belt in the correct orientation?
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RE: !995 Accord Balance Shaft Belt
Forget the 6mm bolt to hold the tensioner. Use the lock nut and push (by hand) the tensioners to fully loose position, and lock the tensioner nut. Install balance shaft belt over forward and rear balance shaft sprockets w/ the crankshaft balance drive sprocket removed. Make sure of alignment of both balance shafts, and engage the crankshaft sprocket to the belt where it willslide (w/ a little effort) over the woodruff key and crankshaft. Check balance shaft alignments.
good luck
good luck
#3
RE: !995 Accord Balance Shaft Belt
You can also look for the 'dot' punch mark on the rear pulley at about the 4 O clock position, it should line up with a casting boss on the block.
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RE: !995 Accord Balance Shaft Belt
Be sure your timing belt tensioner is properly engaged on the pivot stud underneath the tensioner. I'm not certain, but think this may have been source of my noise problem. I never realized, prior to today, that the tensioner bracket hole fits over the stud to provide a pivot point. This is not mentioned anywhere in Honda shop manuals to my knowledge. I think I got lucky on all my previous installations, but somehow on this last TB change installed the tensioner w/o engaging the stud. This could have been Gary L's problem w/ 92 Accord wagon problem. However, the obvious difference in tensioner dimensions suggests there could have been an interference of bearing idler w/ top of stud. Idler does pass right over the stud.
I realized thefunction of the stud today while comparing the installed TB tensioner w/ the previous removed part. They are identical. However while holding the parts, it hit me that the hole in the bracket must have a function, and the stud immediately came to mind, as I had wondered about the stud function. Duh!!
I've got my 94 Accord apart now but had to stop as the wife has broken a small ankle bone stepping off an exercise machine at Curves. I have to drive her to bone repair specialist.
good luck
I realized thefunction of the stud today while comparing the installed TB tensioner w/ the previous removed part. They are identical. However while holding the parts, it hit me that the hole in the bracket must have a function, and the stud immediately came to mind, as I had wondered about the stud function. Duh!!
I've got my 94 Accord apart now but had to stop as the wife has broken a small ankle bone stepping off an exercise machine at Curves. I have to drive her to bone repair specialist.
good luck
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RE: !995 Accord Balance Shaft Belt
TexasHonda:
I found the pivot when I put the tensioner on. This was about the time of
Gary L's post. I couldn’t figure out how his tensioner cold rub because of this but never got to see a photo. I did first install the tensioner without seeing the pivot but notice the orientation didn’t look right. I started to ask Gary about the pivot but figured it was just me that didn’t notice it. I need new glasses to see close. I didn’t think the timing belt would get tension without the tensioner connected to the pivot. The rule of thumb is that you can just turn the timing belt 90 degrees.
I just got the oil restrictor that goes in the block under the head the other day and should be able to finish the job finally. I ran across a web site that mentioned drilling out the oil restrictor to .062 which Honda had already done on the replacement. The 2.2 can suffer from not enough oil getting to the cylinder head. I have been replacing all the O rings that are accessibly with the head and timing belts off. I didn’t realize that there are O rings under the rocker arm assembly that the spark plugs go through until the machine shop asked for them. These O rings are why some people get oil on their spark plugs when they fail. From my engine overheating most of the O rings were brittle including the one on the distributor.
Thanks for the help on the balancer. I will first see if the marks line up with the boss mentioned(and the picture).
I found the pivot when I put the tensioner on. This was about the time of
Gary L's post. I couldn’t figure out how his tensioner cold rub because of this but never got to see a photo. I did first install the tensioner without seeing the pivot but notice the orientation didn’t look right. I started to ask Gary about the pivot but figured it was just me that didn’t notice it. I need new glasses to see close. I didn’t think the timing belt would get tension without the tensioner connected to the pivot. The rule of thumb is that you can just turn the timing belt 90 degrees.
I just got the oil restrictor that goes in the block under the head the other day and should be able to finish the job finally. I ran across a web site that mentioned drilling out the oil restrictor to .062 which Honda had already done on the replacement. The 2.2 can suffer from not enough oil getting to the cylinder head. I have been replacing all the O rings that are accessibly with the head and timing belts off. I didn’t realize that there are O rings under the rocker arm assembly that the spark plugs go through until the machine shop asked for them. These O rings are why some people get oil on their spark plugs when they fail. From my engine overheating most of the O rings were brittle including the one on the distributor.
Thanks for the help on the balancer. I will first see if the marks line up with the boss mentioned(and the picture).
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RE: !995 Accord Balance Shaft Belt
“â€It is one tooth off from the marks. So it does move around a little with just the 6mm bolt to hold the shaft from moving.â€
I was wrong. When I tried to move thesprocket over one tooth and keep the stop in the balance shaft I was only a half tooth on the belt. So it looks like just put the stop (bolt) in, line up the crank and other balance and be done.
I had a bad experience with doing a timing belt on a Porsche once and like to check everything. I think the Porsche had one belt for everything and I nor the other mechanic I worked with could get the balancers right. Thinking back it must have had a set up like Honda to lock down the balancers, but this was before the internet.
I was wrong. When I tried to move thesprocket over one tooth and keep the stop in the balance shaft I was only a half tooth on the belt. So it looks like just put the stop (bolt) in, line up the crank and other balance and be done.
I had a bad experience with doing a timing belt on a Porsche once and like to check everything. I think the Porsche had one belt for everything and I nor the other mechanic I worked with could get the balancers right. Thinking back it must have had a set up like Honda to lock down the balancers, but this was before the internet.
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