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Nitrous oxide:
It's the magic in a bottle that makes an engine come alive and scream for mercy. Adding nitrous can give you a 20-horsepower kick in the tail or an extra 800-additinal stomping stallions if you need it. The correct dose of can take a typical 15-second car and help it run 14s or 13s, or it can take an 8-second drag car deep into the 7s. But before bolting a bottle to your car there are a few things you need to know.

First off, nitrous alone will not make your car fly. Instead, it helps your engine make additional power by adding oxygen to the combustion process. Torque (and horsepower for that matter) is created by burning the air/fuel mixture efficiently in the cylinder.

When gasoline is atomized, mixed with oxygen, and burned in the combustion chamber, the result is a release of great energy and tremendous cylinder pressure that pushes down on the piston and rotates the crankshaft. And so, if you can get the engine to burn more fuel and oxygen, it can create more energy and thus more power.
To efficiently burn gasoline it takes oxygen and a spark. Only then can we complete the combustion process. While fuel is pumped in by the fuel system, the oxygen comes from the atmosphere, and therefore, it's less controllable, and that's why it is harder to pack more oxygen in the cylinders. The air we breathe is actually a mixture of 72 parts nitrogen, 23 parts oxygen and about five parts unknown gasses. But it's only the oxygen content that our engines use for combustion. If you want to get technical, we'll tell you that for every cubic foot of air, only about 21 percent is oxygen. With nitrous, the percentage of oxygen per cubic foot increases to about 50 percent. That's why some call nitrous "atmosphere in a bottle."

To make maximum power your engine needs to have the correct air/fuel ratio. If the ratio is altered due to a rich or lean mixture the engine will be less efficient. In extreme situations an excessively rich or lean condition could result in damaged parts.

Naturally aspirated street engines operate with approximately a 14.7:1 air/fuel ratio. However, when a power adder is used it may be necessary to go as rich as 12.5:1 or lower. That's because with power adders comes increased cylinder pressure and with that comes increased heat. And adding fuel actually keeps the combustion from getting too hot, which helps prevent detonation.

System Types:
Over the years there has been great advancement in nitrous technology; however, there are still only a few different ways to deliver the spray to the engine. These systems include dry systems, wet systems, port systems. And despite the differences between them, most kits operate similarly. A typical kit will have a nitrous bottle, fuel and nitrous lines, solenoid(s) and either nozzles or a plate to spray the nitrous and fuel into the manifold. Most kits also include some electrical connections to energize the solenoids and a switch to activate them.

With electronic fuel-injection manifolds, it is common to run a "dry" nitrous system. Having a dry system simply means no gasoline flows through the intake manifold, even though the nitrous is injected at the throttle body. In a dry system, the additional fuel is added through the fuel injectors. This is done to prevent gasoline from puddling in the manifold as it tries to turn the sharp corners found in many stock-type EFI manifolds. Puddling is very bad for two reasons: If the fuel is puddling it's not getting to the cylinders, and secondly, if a valve hangs open the fuel in the intake can explode and blow the intake right off the car.

In contrast to the dry system is the "wet" system. Wet systems inject nitrous and fuel at the same point, usually directly into the throttle body...

The third type of system is called direct-port. With direct-port nitrous, the nitrous and gasoline are injected by a common nozzle mounted directly into the individual ports in the intake manifold, usually at a close point to the cylinder head. A benefit to direct-port nitrous injection is the ability to fine tune individual cylinders.

Tuning For Power:
It's common knowledge that naturally aspirated engines rely on the negative pressure created in the cylinders to draw the charge of air and gas. The beauty of nitrous oxide is that it can add power to any of these engines by adding pure oxygen to the cylinders. The difficult part of adding nitrous is tuning the flow of nitrous and fuel so the engine maintains the proper air/fuel ratio.

With today's huge electric pumps, fancy regulators and large lines, we can flood the engine with fuel if necessary. But dialing in the right amount of nitrous oxide is a bit more difficult. Fortunately, there are many levels of nitrous kits available so you don't need a degree in mechanical engineering to get going.

Using nitrous oxide is not rocket science, but there are a few basic rules to follow. By now you probably realize that nitrous has a tremendous and instant ability to produce huge power gains. Nitrous also causes cylinder pressure to rise and with that comes lots of heat. As with any power adder, excessive heat can lead to pre-ignition, detonation and severe engine damage.

So let's start with some basic rules of the game. Rule number one is, be smart. Read the instructions and follow the recommendations of the manufacturer or an experienced installer/tuner.

Second, only use the spray when the engine is in top running condition and use it in a controlled environment. If you've been driving around on a 100* day and the engine is cooking, that's a bad time to make a 20-second nitrous blast, even if it will impress your new girlfriend. Being smart also includes staying aware of your gauges and treating your car with respect.

Next, be sure to have the proper octane gasoline. The octane rating determines the gasoline's resistance to detonation or spark knock. Gasoline with a high octane rating burns (or evaporates) slower than a low-octane gas and this is absolutely necessary in the oxygen-rich environment of a nitrous engine. Quick tip: if you're using a 50-125 horsepower kit, and the engine timing is set properly, you can get away with 92-94 octane gas. Beyond its suggested to use race gas.

Nitrous oxide has great power-making potential, but the "shot" or horsepower level you decided to use must be tailored to the capabilities of your engine. The nitrous user must understand that as power levels rise, the strain on the internal parts increases.

Your motor can handle quite a bit of abuse, but they won't tolerate detonation very long. If you're new to nitrous, you should start with a small 25-50 horsepower shot. Still, be smart, always run the high octane pump gas and start with a small test squirt. Make a 300-foot run and check the plugs. If they look clean go another 300 feet. Remember, the longer you stay wide open, the larger the load on the engine.
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awesome write up on nitrous. definitely good info for anyone looking into nitrous

one thing i might add though. rev limiter and fuel cut off. if you hit nitrous and its not set to kick off before a certain rpm....say you decide to redline, hit the rev limiter and maybe fuel cutoff. the nitrous will still flow and will run the engine terribly lean... then boom! i would always recommend a window switch. also i believe nitrous should not be activated until a certain rpm. so say... 3500 to 6000 would be good for a 1994 accord like mine(redline: 6300). just an example.

maybe throw in a detailed DIY as well.
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Thats what im working on now...Lol... Yah, MSD makes an awesome window switch... Thats what i used in my vette.... I would go from 2500 to 6000 or so, no further as you do not wanna hit the rev limiter, can cause nitrous to still flow and can cause a backfire that could blow apart your intake... EEK!!!
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Thats what im working on now...Lol... Yah, MSD makes an awesome window switch... Thats what i used in my vette.... I would go from 2500 to 6000 or so, no further as you do not wanna hit the rev limiter, can cause nitrous to still flow and can cause a backfire that could blow apart your intake... EEK!!!
Iv seen it happen not a pretty site...
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I have read the information which you have mentioned here on nitrous Oxide And I am really very glad after Reading this Post. I was totally unknown from this. And came to know after reading your this post.
agreed...i'm not a nitrous pro now but i do know quite a bit of the basic ideas now.

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i have a 95 accord ex vtec, what nitrous system would you suggest running for a begginer looking for 75 hp max?
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I would go with zex. they are built well and known to be safe. do a lot of reading and be ready to properly prepare the car for added power. I wouldnt go any further than a 50 shot on your stock motor.
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I don't know for experience...but form the forums Iv been on and some of the research Iv done...a 75shot is fine. You can run up as much as a 100shot on stock f22's.
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how hard should the kit be to install on my car? and do you know of any national retailers that sell nitrous?
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My buddie has a 99 v6 3.0l if he was to run nitrous would he need to build his motor or could he run around a 20 shot on it stock?
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