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Whats the engine and transmission durability between F22B1 and newer accord Euro made after 2003? Here at Australia Korean cars are becoming popular along with Mazda. they are low priced with lots of feature.

 

F22B1 and the auto trans attached to it are pretty much bullet proof there are some cars I occasionally see in the classified with over 500K Miles on them with original engine and trans... that's roughly 800,000Kms, right now on cars com in the usa the highest mileage is roughly 350K





starting in 1998 and up to the instruction of the 6at and CVT the 4at and 5at are totally crap compared to the previous ones especially the V6 models. ask any 2003-06 Accord, 2001-03 CL or 2001-06TL owner how many transmissions they have had installed in their car...


in a nutshell


3.XL with 4at.


Original units had internal filter and when that got restricted, your trans died quickly typically taking out 2nd gear. This was compounded by low oil flow to 2nd gear clutch pack (not to be confused with oil jet kits for 2nd GEAR SHAFT)


add to the above filter problems the fact that the differential carrier bearings were substandard and the metal would up in the filter....


Honda did address the issues by a redesign that increased internal lubrication and moving the filter to an external location. Those AT are damn near indestructible


Any V6 attached to a 5at


The internal hard parts are very strong on these units but, just like the 4at above, there is an internal filter that gets clogged easily and similarly they also have a lubrication problem for 3rd gear (the passage is too small) so you cooked your cutch packs as even under moderate acceleration the atf would get hotter than 300F and burn up eventually.... The band aide was to gimp the ECM to limit power and retard timing even MORE during shifts while reducing pressures. Eventually in late 2007 early 2008 Honda redesigned the case and those transmissions seem to hold up much better. Other than a failed pressure switch for 4th gear, my 2008 AT seems to be just fine


despite what everyone on the internet tells you, the only real solution is to replace the unit with a 2007 accord AT from the V6 that most likely has an even better designed case for internal lubrication clutch pack cooling (it will bolt into any car that uses the 5AT and you just have to swap the sub harness from old to new trans)


also pre 98 accords do NOT retard timing/throttle turning the shift and as a result they shift very firm and that reduces clutch wear. but alas, people want smooth so they soften the shift at the expense of clutch wear.