can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda
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can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/27/2008 5:50:51 AM
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DA KID RYU
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the title said it all i asking cause a friend got one from a stock lancer i believe... need more info ask ill try to get every lil thing of info
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/27/2008 12:52:17 PM
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DA KID RYU
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thanks for the correction.. i aprecciate it... i been trying to get better on my english writting skills trying to get my g.e.d mest up in high school.. i'll see what turbo it is... how can u tell which one is it... and will it be correct for a accord set up
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/27/2008 1:49:52 PM
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falkore24
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I think that your best bet is to find out the model and trim of the donor car and look that up on Wikipedia. If that doesn't turn up anything, try a Lancer forum.
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/27/2008 1:59:42 PM
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You can make any turbocharger itself fit (I'm talking about the snail-looking part). The only thing you gotta worry about is clearance. I imagine it should say somewhere on the snail what turbo it is. You'll probably have to do some custom fabbing though(probably not too expensive) and make sure you get a turbo manifold that fits. then you got to tackle the whole engine management aspect (ECU stuff) - that can get expensive.
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/27/2008 3:32:49 PM
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DA KID RYU
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so we talking about a leg and arm of money...lol yea thats wat im talking about the snail... the custom fabrications can be done i know a couple of welders here what do u mean tackle the whole engine management thing..
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/27/2008 3:40:55 PM
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falkore24
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A turbo setup requires a whole new fuel map since your air is compressed. You need a richer mixture for the whole rpm spectrum. Ignition timing helps too, but may not be necessary for a little boost. Read up on setting up a custom turbo system .... KevinAccord has done it. Basically that is what you are doing, just starting with a turbo that you found. I'm pretty sure the whole thing has been covered, so search for "turbo" and get to reading!!! Good luck! Actually, it's probably covered in the section stickies ..... been a while since I looked at them.
< Message edited by falkore24 -- 3/27/2008 3:41:43 PM >
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/27/2008 3:47:24 PM
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DA KID RYU
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thanks falkore yea i seen alot of his turbo post... i read couple of things still a little confused on the fuel map... but ill get to the reading gots too wanna understand the whole turbo world
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/28/2008 7:18:17 AM
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Yeah I don't understand any of that fuel map stuff either. All I knoe is "buy an engine management system" and "get it tuned." Other than that I'm clueless. never had a turbo car before, never driven one, never even looked under the hood of one up close. I've just read a lot about tham and understand the basic concepts.
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/28/2008 7:50:48 AM
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falkore24
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The fuel map is simple an x-y coordinate graph with rpms on the bottom and "fuel" on the left side. I say fuel, because it can be AF ratio, cc/min rate, % +/-, etc. ..... they all really mean and will do the same thing (as far as te map is concerned). Stochiometric (chemically ballanced) AF ratio is 14.7:1 by mass. Engines need to be a bit rich so the liquid fuel on the cylinder wall insulates the cylinder itself from the flame front. Performance engines are normally tuned to be close to 13.3:1 so there is a bit of extra gas in the exhaust (not for that reason, but that is the result) .... a turbo engine could be anywhere from 11.5:1 to 13.5:1 depending on how compressed the air is ..... remember that we are using the OEM calibrated sensors that calculate based on NA pressures. The higher the boost, the more correction is needed. A 13.0:1 tuning on an 8psi engine may in reality be closer to 13.3:1 after the compression is accounted for.
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/28/2008 11:46:25 AM
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Like falkore said, a turbo set up is richer for the reasons listed. The timing (spark) maps are also retarded, or slowed down, a few degrees to account for the higher compression of the air/fuel mixture in the cylinder. You would also do the same for a N/A setup with high compression pistons. The key to retarding the timing is that the mixture is ignited much earlier than the stock 15* BTDC to avoid the possibility of detonation in the engine, where the mixture spontaneous combusts from the high compression.
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 3/28/2008 1:19:59 PM
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DA KID RYU
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wow this is alot of info and kinda hard to comprehand... for reals...i need to get to the reading guys...thanks. laymans terms someone...hahaha
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RE: can a turbo or spool from an lancer fit on a honda - 4/28/2008 12:11:15 PM
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just read it calmly and whatever you don't understand... wikipedia... if still don't get it, then us again, if still.... then buy yourself a bicycle... j/k! just keep reading and you'll get it...
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