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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/4/2008 3:32:36 PM   
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alright.. well i found a ecu with exact matching #'s so its ok... thanks for all the help guys

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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/5/2008 7:52:10 PM   
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ok so i got a PCM its used out of a 99 accord... and the modle # is the same as mine.. i plug it in and my car wont turn over... it sounds like it wants to but it wont.. now besides that it may just be a bad PCM is there anything i have to do to get a different PCM to work or is it just supose to be plug and play?

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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/5/2008 9:09:16 PM   
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If you mean it cranks but won't start, it's probably the mmobilizer...
Did you get a key from the donor car where the PCM came from?

There's an RFID chip inside the key.  There's a small antenna near the ignition switch.  If the key isn't on the list of 'authorized' keys in the PCM, it won't start.

Take the key from the donor car (it won't work in the actual lock cylinder).  Hold it up against the steering column & try again.

Once you know that's the reason, you'll have to go to a dealer or locksmith who has the computer to program your new ECU to accept YOUR keys.


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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/6/2008 11:46:38 PM   
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makes sense.. ill see if i can get the key but i doubt ill be able to do that.. but lets hope for the best. thanks alot.. again!!

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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/7/2008 8:36:52 AM   
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I would be willing to bet money that you need one that matches your engine code.
Here are the differences:
F23A1 - LEV VTEC - it will simply say "VTEC" on the valve cover
F23A4 - ULEV VETC - it will say "ULEV VTEC" on the valve cover
F23A5 - non-VTEC - only found in the 98-02 Honda Accord DX models - will not say VTEC on the valve cover

Your engine code can be easily seen stamped on the engine to the right of the exhaust manifold.

Woops - I forgot to check page 2.  Looks like you already got the PCM

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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/7/2008 12:34:06 PM   
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ok well before i go and and try and find the key and such.. i need ur opinion... so since the only two things that the mechanics say it could be is the fuel sensor or the the PCM... when i clear the code in my car.. and drive it for a few hundred miles... and scan it.. my scanner says that all systems yhave ran their test and passed and i get a green light.. but then i drive a bit more and then the P1457 evap code pops up... thats why i think its the PCM cause everything passes and then a bit later the code pops up.. so what do you guys think... or does none of that matter?

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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/7/2008 3:04:52 PM   
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I think the EVAP codes can be delayed, like this...

The system only OCCASIONALLY tests itself to see whether the tank & canister are airtight.  It has to fail those occasional tests a couple of times before it throws the CEL.

Can your scanner display 'readyness' codes?  Basically, if you reset the ECU it may take several days of driving before ALL the systems test themselves & set the readyness codes.  This clever bunch of nonsense is designed to prevent people from clearing the error codes in the parking lot outside the emmissions testing station.


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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/7/2008 3:40:02 PM   
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no i my scanner cant read those... well i i think ill return the PCM for now.. and just replace the Fuel sensor first... and ill see what happens if it turns on then ill get the PCM and have the keys reprogramed

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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 4/7/2008 9:14:28 PM   
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You said the shop tested all the stuff...  One item is the canister itself.  Is it possible they tested all the valves but didn't check the canister itself to be airtight?

There's a bunch of vacuum hoses down there around the canister, & going up front to the EVAP purge valve (on the intake manifold).  Maybe a vacuum hose is either disconnected or cracked?


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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 5/7/2008 9:40:14 AM   
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Dunno if you have already sorted this out or not, but my car had the same code. Some bimbo at Advanced told me it was probably the O2 sensors and without any more research I went for it. After finding out the hard way that didnt work I took her to Honda for a smoke check. Turned out to be two sensors in the evap control system, not sure the parts numbers, and I managed to get out of there without paying for the test. I will look up as much as I can from Honda to find out what they said, as it's been a while since I had it tested.
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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 5/7/2008 9:51:58 AM   
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That's exactly why I always tell people to get the actual code number.  Not some counter-guys saying it's this or that.


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RE: new to the forum.. questions already.. check engine... - 5/10/2008 6:51:18 AM   
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Well according to the smoke test my car had two problems. A bad canister vac shutoff valve and evap purge control solenoid. I had some other problems with her in the past, most likely due to my living in Maryland and having salt damage in the winter. I'm gonna see if my local shop can get these parts and install them for less that the dealer, who is asking $227 after tax. Thats the same place that wanted $237 to turn the rotors and install front pads. Anyway, who knows if your car is having the same issue or another one, but I doubt it's the ECU. Good luck!
Ty 

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