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quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 7:44:56 AM    kahnvict850 Posts: 160 Joined: 3/28/2008 From: Panama City , FL Status: offline I have a 96' accord lx , 2.2 non v-tec 5 spd , what would i have to do to have a v-tec 2.2 , would i have to get a whole new engine and ecu, or is there just some parts i could change out to make my current 2.2 a  v-tec , thanks _____________________________ 96 lx 2.2 5 spd , 17 in motegi mr7 drop zone coilovers 2.5" drop aem cold air intake cat back exhaust kenwood cd/mp3/wma infinty 6 1/2 door infinity dual voice coil 6x9 ,2 10" bostwick comp subs power acoustic Post #: 1

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 7:46:37 AM    HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007   Posts: 569 Joined: 2/26/2008 Status: offline Why don't you just do an engine swap for the 2.2 vtec version of your engine..i think that'll save you some headache _____________________________ "00 accord(dark green) kenwood 50W Alpine 75W amp 2 (12")kenwood 1200Watt subs 18" daimani rims Black crystal headlights Carbon fiber LED taillights http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/Shadowm2007/ (in reply to kahnvict850) Post #: 2

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 9:16:17 AM    kahnvict850 Posts: 160 Joined: 3/28/2008 From: Panama City , FL Status: offline yea, i am kinda new to the honda thing, and was not sure what the difference between 2.2 v-tec and non v-tec was, if it was easy to make mine a v-tec or if it would be easier to just swap them out, so would i need a new computer for the vtec engine, or do i just need the vtec engine? _____________________________ 96 lx 2.2 5 spd , 17 in motegi mr7 drop zone coilovers 2.5" drop aem cold air intake cat back exhaust kenwood cd/mp3/wma infinty 6 1/2 door infinity dual voice coil 6x9 ,2 10" bostwick comp subs power acoustic (in reply to HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007) Post #: 3

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 9:45:04 AM    BlkCurrantKord   Posts: 1332 Joined: 5/27/2007 Status: online Swap the head, new ecu (96-97 accord EX or 97-98 Acura CL 5psd), new headstuds, new timing gear, new headgasket. Done. You're looking for a head off the F22B1 or F23a1/a4 _____________________________ Accord Mafia Member #001 (in reply to kahnvict850) Post #: 4

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 10:59:14 AM    kahnvict850 Posts: 160 Joined: 3/28/2008 From: Panama City , FL Status: offline thanks blk , i was thinking i could just change out some parts, so i could go to my local junkyard , buy a 96 vtec head , grab the bolts for it , take off the timing gear from the same car , grab the ecu out of it and buy a new head gasket, and thats it, how mechanically inclined do you think one would need to be to do this swap, i have changed oil, flushed trans fluids, changed cv axles, changed fuel pumps that were in gas tank , etc. could i do this without too much trouble??? _____________________________ 96 lx 2.2 5 spd , 17 in motegi mr7 drop zone coilovers 2.5" drop aem cold air intake cat back exhaust kenwood cd/mp3/wma infinty 6 1/2 door infinity dual voice coil 6x9 ,2 10" bostwick comp subs power acoustic (in reply to BlkCurrantKord) Post #: 5

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 2:46:00 PM    00AccordLX5spd Posts: 3815 Joined: 1/16/2007 Status: offline In my opinion it would hardly be worth the measly 15 extra horsepower you would get if you actually succeeded at doing the work BCK advised.  You would be better off peicing together a turbo over time (best way to do it to save a ton of $) to gain some real power. _____________________________ 2000 Accord LX Sedan F23A1 5spd -Short Shift Adapter -eBay SRI w/ K&N 1995 Accord V6 Sedan AT - AKA "the money pit" 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible - my daily driver all through college - now sits in my dad''s garage - needs a little TLC (in reply to kahnvict850) Post #: 6

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 3:12:42 PM    kahnvict850 Posts: 160 Joined: 3/28/2008 From: Panama City , FL Status: offline well i priced the head and computer at a local salvage yard,  roughly 225 for the both of them, add another say 30 for the head gasket kit, so i'd be looking at around 255 if i could do it myself.  i think 255 is reasonable for a 15 hp gain, as far as a turbo goes, that would definatly take alot of time on my budget, but that is a good idea as well, i'm not sure what i'll do, but thanks for everyones opinions. jon _____________________________ 96 lx 2.2 5 spd , 17 in motegi mr7 drop zone coilovers 2.5" drop aem cold air intake cat back exhaust kenwood cd/mp3/wma infinty 6 1/2 door infinity dual voice coil 6x9 ,2 10" bostwick comp subs power acoustic (in reply to 00AccordLX5spd) Post #: 7

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 4:39:38 PM    lightshow Posts: 1775 Joined: 1/6/2006 Status: offline youll need to be Very mechanically inclined to take on and successfully complete this project. also your going to need a comprehensive set of quality tools, starting with the wrench for the crank pulley/ harmonic balancer, and a good torque wrench. good luck (in reply to kahnvict850) Post #: 8

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 4:58:14 PM    kahnvict850 Posts: 160 Joined: 3/28/2008 From: Panama City , FL Status: offline what do you think a good mechanic would charge to do this job, roughly ball park figure _____________________________ 96 lx 2.2 5 spd , 17 in motegi mr7 drop zone coilovers 2.5" drop aem cold air intake cat back exhaust kenwood cd/mp3/wma infinty 6 1/2 door infinity dual voice coil 6x9 ,2 10" bostwick comp subs power acoustic (in reply to lightshow) Post #: 9

RE: quick question about v-tec - 3/31/2008 6:47:35 PM    HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007   Posts: 569 Joined: 2/26/2008 Status: offline _____________________________ "00 accord(dark green) kenwood 50W Alpine 75W amp 2 (12")kenwood 1200Watt subs 18" daimani rims Black crystal headlights Carbon fiber LED taillights http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/Shadowm2007/ (in reply to kahnvict850) Post #: 10

RE: quick question about v-tec - 4/1/2008 7:12:59 AM    00AccordLX5spd Posts: 3815 Joined: 1/16/2007 Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: kahnvict850 what do you think a good mechanic would charge to do this job, roughly ball park figure Probably around $500 or more.  If you can find a mechanic that would do it.  You would probably need to look for a specialty shop.  A dealership or Honda shop wouldn't do it. _____________________________ 2000 Accord LX Sedan F23A1 5spd -Short Shift Adapter -eBay SRI w/ K&N 1995 Accord V6 Sedan AT - AKA "the money pit" 1991 Mustang LX 5.0 Convertible - my daily driver all through college - now sits in my dad''s garage - needs a little TLC (in reply to kahnvict850) Post #: 11

RE: quick question about v-tec - 4/1/2008 5:22:21 PM    HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007   Posts: 569 Joined: 2/26/2008 Status: offline sorry it was a picture that said VTEC just kicked in _____________________________ "00 accord(dark green) kenwood 50W Alpine 75W amp 2 (12")kenwood 1200Watt subs 18" daimani rims Black crystal headlights Carbon fiber LED taillights http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/Shadowm2007/ (in reply to 00AccordLX5spd) Post #: 12

RE: quick question about v-tec - 4/20/2008 9:52:42 PM    kahnvict850 Posts: 160 Joined: 3/28/2008 From: Panama City , FL Status: offline ok, so my budget has changed a little bit, thanks uncle sam for the tax return, so to overview, i have a 96 lx with a 2.2 non vtec and a 5 speed tranny, with 194,xxx miles, only had it for about 5,000 of those miles, so how it was taken care of before me is unknown,  here are my options 1. swap heads and ecu with 96 vtec. 2. go turbo, but with 194,xxx miles, could it hold the boost??? maybe, maybe not 3. of course the h22 swap i believe i could along with my father in law perform any of the three options above with just parts costing $$$ no labor costs , keep in mind this is a dd, so anything done must be able for 2-3 people to complete in a weekend, so what do you guys think will be the best effective way to get some horsepower , i appreaciate any and all comments and opinions. _____________________________ 96 lx 2.2 5 spd , 17 in motegi mr7 drop zone coilovers 2.5" drop aem cold air intake cat back exhaust kenwood cd/mp3/wma infinty 6 1/2 door infinity dual voice coil 6x9 ,2 10" bostwick comp subs power acoustic (in reply to HORSEPOWERJUNKIE2007) Post #: 13

RE: quick question about v-tec - 4/21/2008 6:11:58 AM    white95 Posts: 123 Joined: 6/10/2007 Status: offline Also keep in mind that the junk dealer will probably not guarantee the head, so you might want to add about $400 to your budget to have a machine shop go over it.  If your current motor is running good you probably won't notice a big difference with the vtec head.  _____________________________ 95 Honda Accord LX 5-speed 95 Dodge Dakota SLT 5-speed CC 97 Dodge Caravan (in reply to kahnvict850) Post #: 14

RE: quick question about v-tec - 4/21/2008 7:07:42 AM    kahnvict850 Posts: 160 Joined: 3/28/2008 From: Panama City , FL Status: offline thats a good point white, i think i am leaning towards the turbo or the h22 swap, the thing about the swap is it is very involved and exspensive, i think i could piece together a turbo for less, but i am not sure what kind of shape my internals are in, so thats my problem with that, i feel my car is running fairly strong, i have a aem cai , catback exhaust, which made a good difference, but i am a speed junkie I need more!!! _____________________________ 96 lx 2.2 5 spd , 17 in motegi mr7 drop zone coilovers 2.5" drop aem cold air intake cat back exhaust kenwood cd/mp3/wma infinty 6 1/2 door infinity dual voice coil 6x9 ,2 10" bostwick comp subs power acoustic (in reply to white95) Post #: 15

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