Honda quality slipping?
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Honda quality slipping?
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(last vote on : 5/13/2008 8:29:56 AM)
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Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 11:22:22 AM
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smaglik
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I vaguely remembering a thread awhile back that touched on this, but I wanted to revisit it based upon my recent experiences and some threads I have read in here.
I have owned my 07 V6 since september 2007. Its got about 16000 miles on it. Since I have owned it, the following items have required work:
1700mi - Transmission overhauled due to notchy manual shifter. 3rd/4th gear shift fork, 3rd gear assy, and 3rd gear mainshaft replaced. Problem not fixed.
1700mi - Dealer added EPT foam to inside of driver's side mirror to reduce vibration at highway speed. EPT has pulled out. Vibration returned.
12000mi - Dealer unable to verify recurring shifting issue noted above.
15000mi - Pssgr rear window makes grinding noise when in operation. Both rear window regulators replaced due to a TSB.
15000mi - Front brake rotors resurfaced due to vibration when braking at higher speeds. I fully expect this one to come back. They should have replaced them.
I owned a 94 Accord sedan for 9 years, and had about this many service problems in 9 years, let alone 9 months. So, my question...
Has Honda's quality slipped noticeably since the 5th generation?
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 11:37:53 AM
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00AccordLX5spd
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I said "diminished" not from personal experience, but from reading about sooooo many problems with the newer models. Notchy shifters in the 6 spds, rotors warping after as little as 10k miles, lighting on the headunit screen going out and headunits having TSB's on them, etc..
I haven't had any problems with my 2000. But my 95 V6, that is another story. I think Honda was still experimenting or something when they put the first V6 in the Accords in 95 - I have not been incredibly impressed with that one over the most recent 25k miles or so - I hope to get rid of it soon.
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 12:24:32 PM
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falkore24
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Yes!!!! Guess what?!? At 69k my brother's '01 3.2CL just crapped out its tranny! Under warantee until 110k or 8 years, but still 
Mine lasted until 90k
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 12:26:07 PM
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smaglik
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Agreed, but I think that even outside of the infamous trannies (haha) of the last generation, they have bigger issues at hand.
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 12:37:18 PM
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Tony1M
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Just from a practical perspective, I think owners who have had good service from their newer vehicles would be less likely to post their experience than those who have had trouble. After all, why take the time to seek out this forum, let alone submit a post, if things have been going well with the car? I believe it's when there's trouble afoot, or maintenance to be done, that people come here for advice.
However, the long-time Honda techs on this forum should be able to answer this question definitively in about two seconds ..................... but I can't help but think that politics might affect their ability or willingness to express themselves - especially about current or recent model years. I might very well be wrong on that, though.
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 12:42:33 PM
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smaglik
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Tony-
I agree that we are a self-selected group of respondents, creating an inherent bias in the results, but hey, its a forum. ;)
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 12:49:45 PM
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Tony1M
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quote:
ORIGINAL: smaglik
Tony-
I agree that we are a self-selected group of respondents, creating an inherent bias in the results, but hey, its a forum. ;)
I agree 100%, and I'm glad you started the thread.
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 1:33:54 PM
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00AccordLX5spd
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I want to hear from some Honda Techs now as Tony suggested. Don't be shy!
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 1:53:43 PM
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finch13
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I voted "diminished". I do believe that Honda's reliability has decreased over the last few generations. My extended family has owned 5 Hondas over the past 15 years or so (3rd gen Accord, 5th gen Accord, 6th gen Accord, 7th gen Accord, 2nd gen MDX) and the earlier models are bulletproof compared to the newer models. But, even though I would agree that Honda's quality has decreased, I would still choose a Honda over any other auto manufacturers out there simply because their reliability is still at the top of the list. My family has also owned Dodges, Fords, Buicks, Volkswagens, Chevys, Toyotas, BMWs, and Audis and the quality cannot be surpassed.
Has anyone else noticed that Acuras tend to spend more time in the shop than Hondas? Our MDX has spend a crapload of time at Acura because of the nav system...
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 3:25:13 PM
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ckebottle
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I voted diminished. I'm still bitter about my tranny going out at 90k. Grr. I guess time will tell on the 08's. Have't seen too many threads on those yet. Mostly little nick picky posts. heh.
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/8/2008 7:47:29 PM
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JimBlake
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Yeah, just wait till we get some 8th-gen cars that are 12 years old...
I voted same based on the couple cars I've owned. I tend to look at the older ones with fondness that probably isn't always deserved. If you have good memories about a car, you tend to forget about the infamous buzzing A-pipe or the rusty rear fender arches.
I get real nostalgic about an old BMW I had, but when I really think about it, my GSR was a lot faster, & the bimmer had crank-down windows, no AC, & 13 inch wheels.
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/12/2008 11:35:45 AM
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KevinAccord
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mine has been ok so far and the AT is holding the turbo just fine and i haven't got the chance of putting the tranny cooler on yet... voted same....
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RE: Honda quality slipping? - 5/12/2008 10:19:20 PM
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AWeb80
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I'd say diminished.....I've never heard of 6th gen tranny problems personally, but I have seen MANY stock radios go out.....and replacements go out too.
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