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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 5/28/2008 4:55:16 AM

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i already know what im doin but now its the part where i have to buy it. i have no idea what to buy for a turbo cuz i cant buy kits. could someone make me like a list. plz

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 5/28/2008 5:32:33 AM

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Oh geez...this sounds and looks oh so familiar.

We're not gonna spoon feed you info man. Use the search function.

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 5/28/2008 7:57:50 AM

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im not askin to be spoon fed.
im just sayin i dono what goes with what...
i dono what brands are good
i dono what turbos are good weather it be the t3/t4 or something.
you tell me whats good ill look for the parts etc

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 5/28/2008 1:07:17 PM

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^ Thats spoon feeding.

www.honda-tech.com - start reading

www.howstuffworks.com

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 5/28/2008 2:10:36 PM

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^ Thats spoon feeding.

www.honda-tech.com - start reading

www.howstuffworks.com

[: isnt that what this forum is for?

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 5/28/2008 8:22:30 PM

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If you want to just write a check and have no idea how or what was installed and how it all works together. By all means, go ahead.

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 5/28/2008 8:26:50 PM

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oh no no no.
id figure out how to intsall and once i had it id read up on it.

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/7/2008 10:16:40 AM

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im still confused about alot.
i have been reading and i know you all say to turbo the f series.
but in reading other sites and what not they all say go h series.

what is actually a better motor for forced intorduction?
hp goal being 300-350.
is that possible to achieve with an f series f22b2.

boosting your car?
how does it affect your gas milage?
does it just help out with top end speed?
or will i get accelaration out of it too?

what are some pros and cons about the 2 engines being turboed.

f22b2

PROS:
CONS:

h22a
PROS:
CONS:

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/7/2008 5:55:28 PM

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quote:

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what are some pros and cons about the 2 engines being turboed.

f22b2

PROS:
CONS:

h22a
PROS:
CONS:

i already posted that EXACT LIST on the first page there big boy.

to do 15psi on an F22 your going to need:

forged connecting rods
forged pistons
intake piping
turbocharger
blow off valve
wastegate (if not built into turbo)
turbo exhaust header
turbo downpipe
possibly a high-flow fuel pump and/or high-flow injectors
boost gauge
boost controller
air filter
tuning software
air/fuel ratio gauge
catback
and more...

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/7/2008 9:39:53 PM

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This thread is going no where ...fast.

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/7/2008 11:09:31 PM

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hahah whatever forget it.
this forum blows anywho.

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/8/2008 12:05:22 PM

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quote:

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hahah whatever forget it.
this forum blows anywho.

*facepalm*

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/8/2008 12:41:19 PM

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lmao.... ok the H22 has higher compression then the F22. Therefore to put alot of boost into it requires it to be alot stronger. You can run at least 8 psi on the F22 with stock internals, but I wouldn''t run more then 4 on the H22. It all depends what you want, do some reading, doin''t be a dick, and if this forum blos why are you still here, we''re just trying to help. It''s been 4 pages of the same thing excuse us if we''re a little tired of repeating... lol

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/8/2008 12:49:03 PM

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lmao.... ok the H22 has higher compression then the F22. Therefore to put alot of boost into it requires it to be alot stronger. You can run at least 8 psi on the F22 with stock internals, but I wouldn''''t run more then 4 on the H22. It all depends what you want, do some reading, doin''''t be a dick, and if this forum blos why are you still here, we''''re just trying to help. It''''s been 4 pages of the same thing excuse us if we''''re a little tired of repeating... lol

lmao. i already know that h22 has higher compression and f22 is lower.
yes im aware that i can run alot more in my f22 due to the steel sleeves.
yes im aware that i would have to do alot alot more to and h22 to get alot out of it. which in the long run would put out way more then the f22. fankly i dont really care at this point. h22 or f22. accord = f series. it shall stay that way. so point being leaving out the h22 and boooooooooooooosting the f22 getting bigger throttle body and pistons and shafts etc. but as for now id run stock internals pushing 8-10 until i can afford the pistons. rods. etc...

better?

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RE: f22b2 or h22a - 6/8/2008 1:00:45 PM

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Go with the F22. F22''s are far superior for boost. Heres why:

H22
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High compression ratio (how it gets its power) bad for boosting. increases predetonation. would have to run racing gas if turbo''d with a un-modified compression ratio. if you lowered the compression ratio, it would be nearly identical to the F22
high-tech cylinder walls (i forget the actual name) lighter, and more resistant to wear, but not as strong. You would have to resleeve an H22, but not an F22.
V-tec great for n/a. However at high RPM''s vtec opens the exhaust valve and intake valve for longer periods of time. With a turbocharged engine, the backpressure from the exhaust can push back into the intake manifold if the intake and exhaust valves are open at the same time for an extended period of time (such as at high-rpms with vtec). You would have to swap out the Vtec camshaft for a V-tec eliminating camshaft ($$) designed for turbocharged engines, which completely negates the cost of buying a Vtec head.

F22

inexpensive engine
already has a low compression ratio no need to change it
strong(er) cylinder walls, no need for re-sleeving or a block guard
No vtec, and as long as you had a free-flowing exhaust there would be no need for a new camshaft

Go with the F22.