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HID Information - 7/8/2008 10:59:51 AM
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Tippman7641
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Ok, this happened on an old forum, everyother day some one kept asking about hids so here they are Myths associated with H.I.D.s 1. HIDS can melt the light housing(afthermarket) - more false then true, they in fact only use 35w there for run cooler the regular halgoen(its not the heat of the bulb but its shape) 2. They are only plug and play -False, for most hondas the wiring harness cannot handle the power needed at start up, and external harness must be bought to use them Below is the post i made on the other site, that was my 2000 Blazer with stock housings. I''''''''ve seen so many post of people asking about these things. I myself just got them, I have some before and after pictures to help anyone out. You are invited, if you have H.I.D.''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s as well to post before and after pics. Make sure you read the post(s) preceding this, they can and sometimes are helpful if you become confused about H.I.D.s Mine in the pictures are 6000k bulbs These are the other color options H.I.D.s come in  and just some reading http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question387.htm http://www.mvlc.info/tech/xenon_faq.html http://www.mvlc.info/tech/xenon_abc.html#HIDarc http://www.mvlc.info/tech/xenon_analysis.html http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/disadvantages/disadvantages.html actually these are my bright lights it was so dim my cell cam couldn''''''''''''''''t focus right Before  in a city, believe it or not ther was a car sitting right next to me, you cant even tell his head lights were there 
< Message edited by Tippman7641 -- 7/8/2008 11:26:19 AM >
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RE: HID Information - 7/8/2008 11:11:07 AM
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falkore24
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HID''''s can melt housings, but it''''s not because of the heat, it is because the HID bulb is longer than a halogen and in some fixtures can get too close to plastic parts whereas the bulb would have more clearance. Here is more HID info: Link to discussion on "HID in a halogen fixture"
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RE: HID Information - 7/8/2008 11:19:45 AM
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falkore24
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Personally, I have not seen a melted housing from an HID install .... I know that people have and the length is the cause, because like you said, less wattage equals less heat. On the other hand, an overwattage bulb will melt the stock plastic harness. On my 6th gen, I had overwattage bulbs with a high power relay and ceramic harnesses; then TYC projectors and finally, the projectors with an H1 HID retrofit, as seen in my pics.
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RE: HID Information - 7/8/2008 12:17:12 PM
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falkore24
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Good Link! It''''s similar to the discussion that I linked earlier, but it only shows the downside. I think my drawings show the optic problems fairly clearly. I recognize the shortcommings of a retrofit, but at the same time also realize that not all fixtures produce bad light or blinding glare. IMO, if an article is intended to point out the flaws, it should also qualify that in most cases, the light output is actually better than the bulbs if not equal with less power -> more efficient.
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RE: HID Information - 7/8/2008 12:23:11 PM
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finch13
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I''m happy with my OEM HID "retrofit". I''ve only gotten flashed once and have driven all over. I do agree with the color range index or whatever that thing is, colors were definitely more "noticeable" with the halogens.
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RE: HID Information - 7/9/2008 6:33:30 AM
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falkore24
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Perhaps you should try a 4300K HID bulb to see if what you are experiencing is due to the reflector not being optimal or the spectrum of light not being optimal ...... right now you have both.
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RE: HID Information - 7/9/2008 7:56:34 AM
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finch13
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My high beams are a nice yellow still, so I can see every detail up close, but all of the colors far away (when I need to). Very happy with it.
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RE: HID Information - 7/9/2008 9:24:17 PM
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BuntinBoy9
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ok i saw the first post and was gettin ready to make a new post with my problem... i bought some hid''s from dtmtuning and they are apexicones... they arent working and i think my problem is the wireing isnt holding... what do i do so that they do work???? thanks
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