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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 1:59:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		i got some other plans than just a dremel . little bit of math, some science and some more planning but i have ideas. 

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 2:13:15 PM   
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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 2:18:38 PM   
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http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/m_137017/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#137017

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 4:55:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		lmfao!!! falkore. as for dynos if you can get a fund going id gladly do it lol. oh and falkore im gonna try and actually modifiy the intake for NOS injection anyway lol. i need to get the intake first do some measuring(its easier outside car) and get to some more idea storming

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 5:06:51 PM   
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live2rice's photo gallery 		yeah the average dyno cost is like $75 for 3 pulls, so it would be $150 total

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 5:45:02 PM   
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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 5:53:14 PM   
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live2rice's photo gallery 		not a clue as i am not from that area, just a quick google search and heres a list of all the mustang dynos in OH, im sure there is one close to you

http://www.mustangdyne.com/LocatorPages/DynLoc_OH.htm


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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:03:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		sweet! thanks theres a couple that are close enough. just a question in your best idea. how much average hp is lost from crank to wheels. lets say my car has great compression(it does) then its bolt ons. its stock hp is 130,torque 139. what should i expect? at the wheels

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:06:43 PM   
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live2rice's photo gallery 		i would say around 100whp, give or take

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:14:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		wow thats not very much lol. ill trade ya. this brings up another question if youre familiar. i need a new clutch probly gonna happen this summer. can i get an aluminum flywheel, will it be ok to use and will it make a difference? dang! if i had enough money id just get an h22 and have it installed since theyre gonna have to tear into the drivetrain anyway.

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:19:52 PM   
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wow thats not very much lol. ill trade ya. this brings up another question if youre familiar. i need a new clutch probly gonna happen this summer. can i get an aluminum flywheel, will it be ok to use and will it make a difference? dang! if i had enough money id just get an h22 and have it installed since theyre gonna have to tear into the drivetrain anyway.

yeah thats a rough estimate, in my brief search i couldnt find a dyno of a f22b2, but a b1 with some bolt ons made 116whp. 

i have a aluminum flywheel........8.8lb.  yes it makes a differance, the engine revs much quicker, however makes down shifting useless  and you have less time to shift before the rpms drop.  just a few down sides to keep in mind.  obviously with the lighter the flywheel the worse the bad gets and the better the good gets. 

H22s arent that much, you can get a long block for around 1k. 


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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:25:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		wait just the block or the whole motor, and are there shorts available?

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:28:26 PM   
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live2rice's photo gallery 		long block is block head usually intake manifold and exhaust manifold. 

short block is just the block thats it.  those are harder to find, but idk why you would want one, the head is where you make most of the power

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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:37:05 PM   
clutch811

 

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Status: offline 		haha sorry im confusing myself. i actually know that. as for why id want a short, could it be cheaper to get things separate and build it up. like h22 head then get a header and skunk2 intake w/o having to pay for the stock manifolds i guess.

now as you mentioned about the flywheel, why is down shift useless on the lighter, high revs but falling faster i can understand hence inertia(there''s less of it)


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RE: MOdifying an intake Manifold?? - 9/10/2008 6:39:39 PM   
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live2rice's photo gallery 		nah i would say if anything it would be more money to do that, i mean stock manifolds arent really worth that much. 

back to the inertia again.........doesnt have inertia to slow it down, you down shit and you are just at a higher rpm and dont really slow down. 


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