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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/5/2008 11:54:47 AM
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live2rice
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"hey ma I need to borrow your oven for a couple minutes"
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/5/2008 11:59:17 AM
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I''ve used that line before lol... to blackhouse mah lights!
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/5/2008 12:42:04 PM
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LOL ..... how do you think I plan to get the angel eyes in my headlights!!!
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/5/2008 5:15:02 PM
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Well, today my wife and I took the mixer pieces to "Impact Coatings" in northern Edmonton. The guy there was terrific. He first gave us a tour of the facility, which was very impressive. Then he showed us a variety of colors on a variety of metal objects - metal chairs, varous automotive parts, even sculpture. The array of colors is simply mind-boggling.
Unfortunately, my wife acted like a kid in a candy shop. She picked out a nice red - not quite a candy apple red, more of a fire-truck red.
Anyway, in order to cook off any possible remaining oil or grease, they''re going to first bake the parts at a pretty high temperature. Then they''ll give it a light aluminum oxide blast to get the exact same look all over the bare metal and to properly etch the surface for good coating adhesion. Then they spray on the color powder coat and put it in the oven for only a short period of time in order to melt the powder. Then, while the parts are still pretty hot, they apply a final clear coat and then bake the thing for around 30 minutes at 400 F. The parts are then cooled to room temp and they''re then ready to go for mixer re-assembly.
As I said above, after my wife screamed about five times that she was in love with powder coat, we were told that the price for all of the prep (masking included) and two powder coats would be $150 - the highest end of the previous night''s photos-only quote. I was ready to walk, but my wife wanted to go ahead with the job, so that''s what we did. (Actually, I''m glad that she insisted, because now, not only will I not have to deal with it, I can still blame her for being a splurge!)
So the pieces are now at Impact. The guy said that the parts should be ready "in a couple of days". Realistically, I expect that we''ll have the pieces sometime mid-next-weekish, so I''ll post some photos of the assembled mixer a short time after that.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/5/2008 5:19:11 PM
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sounds like a good deal, and they seem to know what they are doing. cant wait to see pics, is it type-r red? lol.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/5/2008 6:22:49 PM
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I''''d say the red is pretty darned close to that of your valve cover (but maybe just a tad more orange), although, again, the surface on the mixer parts is very smooth. If the sample part we were shown is how our mixer will end up, the finish will be extremely thick, very high gloss "wet", and very "deep" looking.
If I had had my druthers, we''''d have gone a bit more wild.
Practically speaking, the finish will be very easy to clean - just a wipe with a wet cloth.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/6/2008 10:11:47 AM
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You have inspired me Tony, I have been looking at stoves on craigslist lol.
Dont know how my parents would feel about a stove in the garage though.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/6/2008 10:31:25 AM
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Tell your mom she can use it to bake more things at once :D.
She''ll probably make you pay for part of the electric bill. I had to heat my valve cover for an hour prior to powdering it to burn off all of the oil in the metal.
This is the same powder I used on my valve cover, Eastwood''s HotCoat Glossy Black
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/6/2008 4:16:33 PM
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You have inspired me Tony, I have been looking at stoves on craigslist lol.
Dont know how my parents would feel about a stove in the garage though.
You know, if the parts you are going to be baking are not that large, you might be able to get away with a toaster-oven. They come in a variety of sizes and the largest would be able to cook a fairly large part. Here''s an example:
http://charlotte.craigslist.org/hsh/875490937.html
Another advantage to a toaster oven is that most of them are 115V. Plus, they''re small, light in weight and unobtrusive, so you can actually hide the thing between uses - something that''s hard to do with a full-size stove/oven.
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Tell your mom she can use it to bake more things at once :D.
She''''ll probably make you pay for part of the electric bill. I had to heat my valve cover for an hour prior to powdering it to burn off all of the oil in the metal.
This is the same powder I used on my valve cover, Eastwood''''s HotCoat Glossy Black
Very nice looking powder coat, finch.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/6/2008 4:57:52 PM
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I talked to my dad, and he said he can run the high amp/voltage wire for the stove himself, and we will just put it in the basement so its not even like we have to wire it very far cause the circuit breaker is write there.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/6/2008 5:47:20 PM
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I talked to my dad, and he said he can run the high amp/voltage wire for the stove himself, and we will just put it in the basement so its not even like we have to wire it very far cause the circuit breaker is write there.
Everything I''ve read so far says that the oven should be in a very well ventilated area. I think that''s a nice way of saying that while a part is baking, it really stinks, really bad, and lots of it.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/6/2008 5:48:34 PM
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I could just open up the bulk head and have a fan going, I''m going to get cancer anyways lol.
I have painted in my basement before, and painted the interior of my car with all doors closed...........yeah it wont do anything to me that I dont already have.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/7/2008 4:44:53 AM
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^^^ hmmmm, that explains it Cameron!!!
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/7/2008 4:48:00 AM
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live2rice
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yeah lol, the whole painting your interior, wouldnt recommend it, I had a respirator, but it didnt matter.
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RE: DIY powder coating - 11/7/2008 3:14:59 PM
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I talked to my dad, and he said he can run the high amp/voltage wire for the stove himself, and we will just put it in the basement so its not even like we have to wire it very far cause the circuit breaker is write there.
Everything I''''ve read so far says that the oven should be in a very well ventilated area. I think that''''s a nice way of saying that while a part is baking, it really stinks, really bad, and lots of it.
The powder itself does not smell (a lot) while it is melting into the metal. It''s the part you bake and applying the powder that create the smell.
Doing the valve cover created a lot of smoke because of the oil and some of the plug tube seal remnants. When applying the powder the stuff that doesn''t stick goes everywhere. My grandpa has a "hood" type deal with an exhaust fan in it sucking the excess powder out the window.
I''d keep it in the garage and not the basement.
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