RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost!
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/16/2008 3:45:28 AM
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TexasHonda
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I did not see any evidence of rubbing against the TB cover.
I reinstalled the crankshaft pulley w/o the timing cover in place and turned the engine by hand. I could not hear any contact.
Reinstalled timing belt cover and repeated timing belt tension procedure. Still could not detect any noise.
Startup -Noise.
I''ve concluded it must be the timing belt sprocket contacting the engine housing, but this is minor mystery.
I''m waiting for another long weekend (3-day weekend) to try again.
Upside is I''m getting real good at removing/installing all the components for this job.
Thanks for input.
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/16/2008 12:16:20 PM
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jeepwm69
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I did not see any evidence of rubbing against the TB cover.
I reinstalled the crankshaft pulley w/o the timing cover in place and turned the engine by hand. I could not hear any contact.
Reinstalled timing belt cover and repeated timing belt tension procedure. Still could not detect any noise.
Startup -Noise.
I''''ve concluded it must be the timing belt sprocket contacting the engine housing, but this is minor mystery.
I''''m waiting for another long weekend (3-day weekend) to try again.
Upside is I''''m getting real good at removing/installing all the components for this job.
Thanks for input.
Out of curiosity, how many miles do you have on yours? Mine just started doing this about 8-10 months ago. I''ve got 336K on mine and it''s all original except for the clutch slave cylinder and the raditor, so I really am just planning on driving the car till it dies, and then sending it to the scrapper. Sooner or later I''m going to lose a timing belt (last replaced at 180K), or the clutch (original and was driven hard when I was young and dumb) but I don''t want something cheap and easy to kill my car. I''ve been debating on having the tbelt done, but since the body is trashed (3X''s totalled out) and the cluch is bound to go sooner or later, I just really can''t justify the expense. I''ve got a 2000 Accord with @120K on it sitting in the driveway that I bought a little over a year ago that will become my daily driver when this 93 dies.
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/16/2008 1:53:55 PM
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TexasHonda
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It has ~225K miles.
I hope your 2000 has a timing belt change. It''s due at 105K miles.
good luck
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/16/2008 4:04:24 PM
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jeepwm69
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Yep, the 00 Accord has had all scheduled maint including a timing belt at 105K. My mom bought it new and had it until 102K when I bought it in Feb of 2007, thinking that my 93 was on its last leg, but the 93 just keeps on ticking along. Still gets 30mpg, uses/leaks no oil, and I''m thinking about biting the bullet and having the timing belt replaced and just keeping it on the road. I travel about 3K/month for work and they reimburse me the govt milage rate so it''s been a real gem for me over the last 7 years since I took this job.
I got the 93 new and have been pretty meticulous about keeping the fluids changed, but I''ve put off the timing belt thinking that putting $550 in a timing belt and then having to put out $7-800 more for a clutch wouldn''t make much sense given the shape of the body and the rest of the car would still have 300K+ on it.
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/17/2008 8:18:20 AM
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f allen
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The garage should have absorbed the whole cost of everything involved , thats what we pay for results, the garage sais they had good results, they bought the parts and put em in , they are poor mech if you ask me, should have compared parts , they are suppose to be pro,s, i think you need a different mech and id file a claim in small claims court for the added expence, this to me is rediculous.
Frank Allen
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/20/2008 7:05:37 PM
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TexasHonda
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The timing belt tensioner parts are only a few months old and when I inspected them last weekend they were perfectly smooth and functional. Absolutely identical to removed parts, so I reinstalled them.
I agree that TB cover needs to be more carefully evaluated and will in line w/ my other post.
thanks
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/20/2008 11:22:42 PM
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kris_loehr
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Texas Honda:
I think you could start your engine with the timing belt covers off as long as you put the crank pulley back on. You could just start with top. This way you don''t have to take it all apart if it is just the top timing belt cover. A metal to metal noise like you suspect would not sound like the familiar sound of a loose or worn belt.
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RE: Tried to save a few bucks and almost doubled the cost! - 11/27/2008 11:07:34 AM
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TexasHonda
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After correcting my timing belt tensioner installation, I restarted engine and squeal is unchanged.
When I stand next to the timing belt cover, I would swear it''s coming from there, but when I got very near the starter it seemed to be coming from the starter. Starter motor may be contacting the field magnets. I''ve heard this sound before on cooling fan motors. It''s a horrible squeal. I think I''ll repair or replace the starter.
I''ll also try to confirm noise source w/ stethoscope tube as suggested.
regards
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