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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 9:45:05 AM   
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I'm asking you to back up a statement that Castrol isn't a good oil and I'M out of line??????? I know that they are an oil blender that's common fact. Had you said "In my opinion" I would have never responded but you stated it as fact. You still have provided no proof only conjecture. I used Castrol exclusively for over 40 years of driving and countless cars. Not once was there ever an oil related engine problem. I also used engine oil analysis and they always came back stellar. I now use Mobil 1 and have since 2003. So we agree to disagree about Castrol........

Your "poophole" inference is not appreciated and was uncalled for.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 10:41:33 AM   
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I read in my Chiltons manual that Synthetic wouldn't be good for a new, or high mileage car for a few reasons..

For mine (higher mileage, 168,000) it says it can break down sludge that's built up and possibly clog my filter causing engine problems. Also it says it can leak easier, but I currently don't have any leaks anyway so maybe that one won't apply.

What do you guys say about what the book says? I'd rather use Mobil 1 Synthetic just to use what's best..

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 12:29:32 PM   
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well if you are worried about the sludge/clog factor then run a bottle of motor flush through the motor before you change to synthetic. Its very common knowledge that Castrol isnt a singular oil company, in fact if you pay attention to the back label on the bottles you can plainly see that BP makes Castrol. Just like texaco makes not only Havoline but Shell as well, etc, etc... Hell WAL-MART brand oil is actually made by the same people that make Quaker State. Im in agreeance with Texas..you havent shown and reputable technical evidence that Castrol isnt a good oil, just your own POOPhole as you so fondly put it.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 1:12:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WhyNotFab

I read in my Chiltons manual that Synthetic wouldn't be good for a new, or high mileage car for a few reasons..

For mine (higher mileage, 168,000) it says it can break down sludge that's built up and possibly clog my filter causing engine problems. Also it says it can leak easier, but I currently don't have any leaks anyway so maybe that one won't apply.

What do you guys say about what the book says? I'd rather use Mobil 1 Synthetic just to use what's best..


This is my opinion but it is based on several years of research... Although I use synthetic in everything, even the lawnmower, I don't think it is worth the expense of going to synth @ 168K. Why? I just don't think the benefits justify the cost unless you are planning extended oil change intervals. If you plan or changing oil & filter @ 5K or sooner there will be little benefit with synthetic. Were it my car I would use this to clean the interior of the engine gently: http://www.auto-rx.com/index.html.
Some believe that the 3000 mile oil change is the way to go, nothing wrong with that. I go 7-8K using Mobil 1 and it works for me and the car judging by the oil analysis'. Actually it could go a bit farther according to those that analyze the oil. 7-8K is my comfort zone.

Other opinions will differ and that's fine with me.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 1:56:42 PM   
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I'm reading about that Auto-RX stuff right now, have you used it before? Seems to be something I'd want to order soon and try.

If I don't go with Synthetic oil, what other brands would you guys suggest?

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 2:25:32 PM   
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I have not used it before. The last three cars I've owned had low mileage when I got rid of them or traded. The current one only has 20K. There are many positive testimonails there and some before/after pictures that show what it can do. I will use it when my car approaches 70K or so. On Bobistheoilguy there are at least a hundred positive testimonials also. That's where I learned of the product.

If you want to use a full synthetic after the Auto RX then go for it. If you feel it's worth it then that's all that matters. Any name brand dino oil will work very well. A few sleepers are Havoline, Motorcraft (a synth blend), Chevron, & Exxon 7500 (another blend). Those, and many others, have shown to hold up very well and have excellent additive packages. As said several times, any name brand will be just fine. It would be almost impossible to go wrong. Wal-Marts brand of oil & filters are a very good value and hold up well, believe it or not. Honda filters made by Filtech are hard to beat but there are many others.

We all have our favorite brands if it's oil or breakfast cereal. Buy a brand you are comfortable with.


Here's an individual that set out to prove that Auto RX was crap. After two treatments the engine was clean, ran better, idled better, and the compression on ALL cylinders was way up. Take the time to read it all to get the big picture. http://www.auto-rx.com/rms13/index-1.htm
The before and after pictures are amazing as are the before & after engine specs.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 2:54:00 PM   
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I could afford 2 bottles one day for the 2 step application, but would it be necessary to keep adding the 2-3 oz. for each oil change thereafter? 1 bottle would last 5 oil changes if I used 2 oz. per oil change after the initial 2 step cleaning/rinsing process..

I gotta wait a little while before ordering it though now, $25 a bottle and at first I didnt see I need 2.. lol

Thanks for the tips, definitely going to try it when I have some extra $$

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 3:06:57 PM   
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Frankly most folks do not do the "maintenance dose". They treat with Auto RX once or twice, depending on mileage, and just get on with it.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/1/2006 4:11:37 PM   
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or you could just go and vuy a bottle of GUNK motor flush its 6 bucks at Wal-Mart and all ya do is dump it in the crankcase run the car for 10 mins at idle cut it off and drain.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/2/2006 5:09:43 PM   
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I'm asking you to back up a statement that Castrol isn't a good oil and I'M out of line??????? I know that they are an oil blender that's common fact. Had you said "In my opinion" I would have never responded but you stated it as fact. You still have provided no proof only conjecture. I used Castrol exclusively for over 40 years of driving and countless cars. Not once was there ever an oil related engine problem. I also used engine oil analysis and they always came back stellar. I now use Mobil 1 and have since 2003. So we agree to disagree about Castrol........

Your "poophole" inference is not appreciated and was uncalled for.


i never said it was a fact. i will agree i never said it was my opinion either, which i should have done. i am in no way trying to start an argument or battle it out with you about oil. so let me restate my opinion. i do not favor castrol for the reason of it does not last longer than some of the other oils ive used and it breaks down faster than most. in my opinion formula shell and mobil 1 are the best oils to use, and as i said in another post which most people dont believe. Super tech from walmart is actually a good oil and its cheap. so to conclude this, i appoligize to you RtexasF. i hope to still recieve suggestions from you if i have any posts or visa versa.


sincerly,Joe

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/2/2006 6:03:11 PM   
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ok now that the debate is over, have another question for the infinitely opinionated of the forum...where can I order Honda ATF or is there a parts store that sells it..? anything other than going to a dealership.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/2/2006 8:05:41 PM   
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Extended milage, great protection and reasonable price. . .

Phillips 66 trop-Artic 5W-30 synthetic blend. $1.68 at Wally-World.

Believe it or not.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/2/2006 9:49:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 92Inspire


quote:

ORIGINAL: RTexasF

I'm asking you to back up a statement that Castrol isn't a good oil and I'M out of line??????? I know that they are an oil blender that's common fact. Had you said "In my opinion" I would have never responded but you stated it as fact. You still have provided no proof only conjecture. I used Castrol exclusively for over 40 years of driving and countless cars. Not once was there ever an oil related engine problem. I also used engine oil analysis and they always came back stellar. I now use Mobil 1 and have since 2003. So we agree to disagree about Castrol........

Your "poophole" inference is not appreciated and was uncalled for.


i never said it was a fact. i will agree i never said it was my opinion either, which i should have done. i am in no way trying to start an argument or battle it out with you about oil. so let me restate my opinion. i do not favor castrol for the reason of it does not last longer than some of the other oils ive used and it breaks down faster than most. in my opinion formula shell and mobil 1 are the best oils to use, and as i said in another post which most people dont believe. Super tech from walmart is actually a good oil and its cheap. so to conclude this, i appoligize to you RtexasF. i hope to still recieve suggestions from you if i have any posts or visa versa.


sincerly,Joe


Thanks, all is well with us. Supertech (Wal-Mart) oil and their filters are both good, I believe you. I'm a member of Bobistheoilguy too......#415

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/2/2006 9:52:37 PM   
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ok now that the debate is over, have another question for the infinitely opinionated of the forum...where can I order Honda ATF or is there a parts store that sells it..? anything other than going to a dealership.


You'll need to pay the dealer's price. You may find it for a little less online but the shipping would quickly kill any savings.

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RE: Oil Suggestions? - 10/2/2006 9:54:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Alekat

Extended milage, great protection and reasonable price. . .

Phillips 66 trop-Artic 5W-30 synthetic blend. $1.68 at Wally-World.

Believe it or not.


That's a great buy!

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