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would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire wea... - 11/27/2006 5:31:02 PM    thunder_x Posts: 955 Joined: 10/2/2005 From: southern california Status: offline i found these sprint camber kits online for 150 and they are able to support only up to a 1.5 inch drop, but i am planning to drop my car 2 inches would that .5 difference actually show up in my tire wear, acceleration, or anything else in a negative way? Post #: 1

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 5:46:03 PM    sir_nasty Posts: 6309 Joined: 2/23/2006 Status: offline if you were to go from a stock height to .5 inches lower you MIGHT see a very minor amount of adjustment. However, due to angles etc a .5 inch drop from 1.5 inches to 2 inches might be a bigger difference. Either way you'll probably want a camber kit just to be safe, you could however run for a while with that camber as long as you rotate your tires frequently (6 months is the most I'd go) but in the end even if you're only doing 1.5" lower you should get a camber kit. _____________________________ 1981 Civic Station Wagon - ROhnda (Really Old Honda) 1981 Honda CB650 Motorcylce - WHEE What More can I say? 2000 Lexus RX 300 - Oooh baby my wife let me drive it once!! Quote: Life''''s great but it''''s not all beer and skittles (in reply to thunder_x) Post #: 2

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 6:07:39 PM    live2rice Posts: 3456 Joined: 10/18/2006 From: Keene, NH/New Haven, CT Status: online I wish my car had a camber kit, i lowered it 1.8 inches, and i get a good amount of uneven wear. I have also ripped out a few inner fenders(1.8drop +18s=problems). My wheels also hit the fenders when going over speed bumps and such, so you are going to want to take into consideration what size rim you want when deciding on how low to drop it. (in reply to sir_nasty) Post #: 3

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:03:01 PM    thunder_x Posts: 955 Joined: 10/2/2005 From: southern california Status: offline well, im not going from 1.5 to 2.0 im going from a stock height on my 91 accord with a 2 inch drop and camber kits that can only support a 1.5 inch drop would there be very minor affects on my tires and ect? or would it be enough that i would need a better camber kit to support my 2 inch drop? (in reply to live2rice) Post #: 4

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:06:23 PM    live2rice Posts: 3456 Joined: 10/18/2006 From: Keene, NH/New Haven, CT Status: online i would just get ones that can support 2in, do it right, do it once. (in reply to thunder_x) Post #: 5

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:15:59 PM    sir_nasty Posts: 6309 Joined: 2/23/2006 Status: offline I would agree that doing it once the first time is the best way to go however I would imagine that this is a kit you are looking at... what I'm curious about is that most camber kits say they can do like +/- 3 degrees and rate them on those basis not on a lowering setup since cars differ so much. With that in mind realize that +/- 1 degree is considered ok by most standards so effectivly if you were adjusted to proper camber at 1.5" drop then went another .5" you should be ok (no optimal for daily driving but ok none the less). There is of course no way to guarantee any of this for sure since so many different factors can come in to play like how the kit works, tire width etc but from what I've seen/experienced you should be ok.... Anyone else agree with this? _____________________________ 1981 Civic Station Wagon - ROhnda (Really Old Honda) 1981 Honda CB650 Motorcylce - WHEE What More can I say? 2000 Lexus RX 300 - Oooh baby my wife let me drive it once!! Quote: Life''''s great but it''''s not all beer and skittles (in reply to live2rice) Post #: 6

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:16:43 PM    thunder_x Posts: 955 Joined: 10/2/2005 From: southern california Status: offline yea... but the thing is that those are double the price of the sprint camber kits its like... a 2 inch drop minus 1.5 inches because of the camber kit... so my camber would still be negative, but only as if i lowered my car .5 inches, right? (in reply to live2rice) Post #: 7

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:30:13 PM    thunder_x Posts: 955 Joined: 10/2/2005 From: southern california Status: offline this is exactlly what im looking at http://www.andysautosport.com/honda/1990_1993_accord/suspension/camber_kits/sprint/spri00038751.html i found out that they can only support up to a 1.5 inch drop because i called them and asked, but maybe the guy who told me this is wrong? (in reply to thunder_x) Post #: 8

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:32:23 PM    sir_nasty Posts: 6309 Joined: 2/23/2006 Status: offline lowering from stock height .5" vs. lowering from normal camber at 1.5" is a bit different because of the angle the suspension components are at from the starting point.... What price range are you looking at for the camber kit? perhaps we could just help you find something that will fit what you need for the same price. _____________________________ 1981 Civic Station Wagon - ROhnda (Really Old Honda) 1981 Honda CB650 Motorcylce - WHEE What More can I say? 2000 Lexus RX 300 - Oooh baby my wife let me drive it once!! Quote: Life''''s great but it''''s not all beer and skittles (in reply to thunder_x) Post #: 9

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:34:26 PM    sir_nasty Posts: 6309 Joined: 2/23/2006 Status: offline so basically you're looking at $300.00 for the front and rear... and it appears that those only adjust for +/- 2 degrees which is why you may have that limitation _____________________________ 1981 Civic Station Wagon - ROhnda (Really Old Honda) 1981 Honda CB650 Motorcylce - WHEE What More can I say? 2000 Lexus RX 300 - Oooh baby my wife let me drive it once!! Quote: Life''''s great but it''''s not all beer and skittles (in reply to sir_nasty) Post #: 10

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:37:14 PM    thunder_x Posts: 955 Joined: 10/2/2005 From: southern california Status: offline well, i wouldnt pay more than 160 for a set of camber kits but the thing you said about the angle of the suspension... so lowering my car 2.0 inches with a camber kit that supports 1.5 vs just lowering my car .5 without the camber kit which one would be worse for my tire wear and ect. (in reply to sir_nasty) Post #: 11

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:40:56 PM    sir_nasty Posts: 6309 Joined: 2/23/2006 Status: offline based on what I know lowering it the way you are talking vs. lowering .5" from stock is a bit worse, how much worse I'm not 100% sure. However I just wanted to make sure you see that the camber kit you are looking at is only for a set of 2, so you still need something to adjust the rear _____________________________ 1981 Civic Station Wagon - ROhnda (Really Old Honda) 1981 Honda CB650 Motorcylce - WHEE What More can I say? 2000 Lexus RX 300 - Oooh baby my wife let me drive it once!! Quote: Life''''s great but it''''s not all beer and skittles (in reply to thunder_x) Post #: 12

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:41:39 PM    thunder_x Posts: 955 Joined: 10/2/2005 From: southern california Status: offline well, actually that kit in my link is for both front and back (in reply to thunder_x) Post #: 13

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 7:48:43 PM    sir_nasty Posts: 6309 Joined: 2/23/2006 Status: offline here's a FAQ from ingalls about camber, ingalss makes ball joints for about $160 (front only) that will do +3 degrees change http://www.ingallseng.com/faq.htm Also, Take note under the description section of that post this is what it says. Double check with the guys before you buy them because it would appear that you're looking at a set of two. I've been wrong before though! "Do camber kits come in sets of 4? No, unless otherwise noted, camber kits are sold in sets of 2, so you buy one set for the front and/or one set for the rear." I do see the seperation though from "Complete Kit" vs. "front or rear" but you may want to take note that the front kit is about $75.00 and the rear kit is about $65.00 so if you buy them seperatly it's $140.00 vs. $151.00 for the kit.... _____________________________ 1981 Civic Station Wagon - ROhnda (Really Old Honda) 1981 Honda CB650 Motorcylce - WHEE What More can I say? 2000 Lexus RX 300 - Oooh baby my wife let me drive it once!! Quote: Life''''s great but it''''s not all beer and skittles (in reply to thunder_x) Post #: 14

RE: would a .5 inch drop make ANY difference in my tire... - 11/27/2006 10:24:37 PM    thunder_x Posts: 955 Joined: 10/2/2005 From: southern california Status: offline thanks for the site, but they dont any for my car 91 accord (in reply to sir_nasty) Post #: 15

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