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RE: H22A swap legality - 1/23/2007 7:37:41 PM   
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The point to my rant is that the h22 swap is nothing but a headache, you will always have EGR/emissions problems, and it's just the begining.  I suggest to anyone thinking of doing this swap to really think about. Take it from someone who has been down this road before it's not for the fant at heart. 

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RE: H22A swap legality - 1/23/2007 10:42:01 PM   
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We know you had issues with yours. But that doesn't mean everyone will. Further more to say it's always a headache and you will always have problems is a bit of a broad declaration. And for it to be valid, a person would have to have extensive expertise in engine swaps. ALso this swap is a fairly common and popular one, and if the problems you say occur every time, then it wouldn't be. There are many members of this site and other sites that have done this swap and maintain the vehicle in legal, daily driving condition.

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RE: H22A swap legality - 1/24/2007 8:14:24 AM   
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My swap was done over 10years ago in 1996, It was a headache, They are actually called "Ghetto Sleds" were I'm from, I haven't heard a single comment on this board from a person who has done this swap, a lot of "my friend this" and "trust me" but, I'm just letting you know from the perspective of a person who has actually done this swap before.  This is an old swap, Your going to take motor thats 10-15 years old put it into a car that it was never supposed to be in and expect it to last. Why not just buy a prelude to begin with! I encourage you to do it, don't let one persons bad expierence discourage any of you.  In 3 years we can have the same conversation and we can compare costs and if the car is still running.  Good luck man, wish you the best!

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RE: H22A swap legality - 1/25/2007 12:33:53 AM   
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naw, headswap a h22 or h23 and bore it out 90mm and tuning and you have over 200whp ^_^  merry christmas less money and less work

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/6/2007 3:41:06 PM   
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The only thing they really look at when its if its legal or not is the year of the vehicle and year of the engine. Yes, it is at sometimes illegal to swap a motor. If the motor is older then the car it is being swapped into, it is. But say you have a 95 accord and you want to swap a H22 in it, your fine. Mine however is not legal, but they never check for those things. I have a 2000 accord with a 95 J-Spec Prelude motor in it.

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/6/2007 5:33:58 PM   
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actualy we discussed this in class (wyotech)

any motor swap... no matter what... is completely illegal... becuase the goverment has never verifyed (crash testing and so on) that cars configuration for street use...            

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/6/2007 5:56:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: legionofone

actualy we discussed this in class (wyotech)

any motor swap... no matter what... is completely illegal... becuase the goverment has never verifyed (crash testing and so on) that cars configuration for street use...            



now this is more more likely then just saying the swap of an older engine into a newer car is illegal, because if you can get it to pass the states emissions tests how exactly is it illegal?   This is ignoring the fact that you never hear of anyone being fined for doing engine swaps other then in california but things going on that state are becoming beyond stupid

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/6/2007 11:12:13 PM   
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its the same way with skylines and certain ferarris u cant have them here because they dont have the front side and rear impact saftey certifiations... basicly it takes 3 identical cars to run the tests and verify that they are up to the goverments standards u can make ANY car street legal if u plan on building 4 of them :) 3 to crash and 1 to drive

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/7/2007 4:30:17 AM   
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which should tell everyone, dont do an engine swap, do a head swap!  ^_^

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/7/2007 12:59:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: legionofone

its the same way with skylines and certain ferarris u cant have them here because they dont have the front side and rear impact saftey certifiations... basicly it takes 3 identical cars to run the tests and verify that they are up to the goverments standards u can make ANY car street legal if u plan on building 4 of them :) 3 to crash and 1 to drive


Well, you actually can get a Skyline here in the US.  A company called Motorex imports them.  They're street legal.

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/7/2007 1:21:45 PM   
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motorex went threw the process of crash testing them... thats why only THEY sell them ...    

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/7/2007 1:58:56 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: legionofone

actualy we discussed this in class (wyotech)

any motor swap... no matter what... is completely illegal... becuase the goverment has never verifyed (crash testing and so on) that cars configuration for street use...            



Ok I'm going to "bust your balls" for a second on this one just for curiousity's sake.... If it's illegal to do a swap on the basis of a lack of crash test ratings then why would a motorcyle or four wheeler (ATV) be street legal? To the best of my knowledge there is not crash test ratings on those vehicles yet they are legal...  If I wanted to make a VW bug into a BAHA bug is that legal? the car has never been tested in that configuration....  I'm just curious how modifying a car at all could be legal for street use if crash testing etc. is required to make it so...


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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/7/2007 3:12:21 PM   
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its all about EPA regularions... and goverment crash test regulations... kit cars and personal recreational vehicals are in a class of there own... also it depends on what state u live in if u can ride a ATV or PRVs on the road... in wyoming u have to have blinkers a tail light mirrors and a headlight to be street legal...

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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/7/2007 3:45:48 PM   
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federal epa regulations or state? I thought it was all state run.... is it possible for a car to be considered a kit car if it wasn't origonally sold as such?  I guess I just have a hard time believing that a swap isn't legal in any state... If that's the case is it legal to even put a different motor in a car of the same year, I.E. could I put the non vtec motor that came standard with a 94 accord into my ex version that came with a f22 sohc vtec?


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RE: H22A swap legality - 2/7/2007 4:23:18 PM   
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nope that car is setup like it is... its passed goveremnt regulations and is not to be altered in any way... just like putting b16s into HF CRXs the CRX isent used to the added weight...     

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