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RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 12:04:39 AM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline Ok guys I ran the test the pump is still good and it is running up untill I try it with the key on.... I tested it with a battery so I know it pumps but I cant find a relay to it and all fueses are good... Any ideas? i thikn i just found the relay ... but im not sure is it on the back side ofthe fuse box??? _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 16

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 12:41:56 AM    deserthonda Posts: 3575 Score: 0 Joined: 12/3/2005 Status: offline yes it is......  it is located on the back side of the fuse box.. _____________________________ No Year No Model in Your signature No Help from me Take a look in the DIY section before asking for help Always Diagnose First,,, Before Replacing Parts (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 17

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 1:46:24 AM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline i can't seem to locate that exact part.. am i gonna have to get that from the factory? or will any type of relay work? < Message edited by Hatchit -- 3/11/2007 1:47:43 AM > _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to deserthonda) Post #: 18

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 1:36:46 PM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline ok so i tracked dow... 3 differet electric relays for my car.... but none are spasific to the fuel pump (exept the emer. fuel shut off ) which i found ad then arelay next to it (on back of the fuse box)... are they both for the fuel pump??? or does that relay controle more then just the fuel pump???? _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 19

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 4:17:42 PM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline ok i think i found the relay for it but im ot sure if it's bad.... i used a ohm reader to check the current in itand everycomponation was bad(on the 3 progs) i only got an unpowered connection on the open ground in the middle and left prong.... is this the right relay? if so was it tested correctly to see if it's bad?? picture 1 side shot with i.d. numbers picture 2 prong side < Message edited by Hatchit -- 3/11/2007 4:28:24 PM > _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 20

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 4:21:22 PM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 21

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 4:22:25 PM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 22

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 4:36:09 PM    deserthonda Posts: 3575 Score: 0 Joined: 12/3/2005 Status: offline you have already chked fuse # 1 correct and it is ok ??if so.. the relay in located on the bacl lower rt side of the fuse box , looking at it from the back side -------------------------------------------------------                                                         intermittent wiper relay                                                              ---------                                                             turn signal        defogger                           fuel cut off relay .------------         -----------                  ----------- ------------------------------------------------------ sorry pal but this is the best i can do, i do not have a scanner to scan pics in .. but chk that fuse first _____________________________ No Year No Model in Your signature No Help from me Take a look in the DIY section before asking for help Always Diagnose First,,, Before Replacing Parts (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 23

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 4:49:36 PM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline so the relay above isn't the right one??? am i tryin to fid the cut off relay(the grey box wity with holes, and 4 prongs lined up)??? _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to deserthonda) Post #: 24

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 9:06:33 PM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline iv been told that there is no pump relay for a carborated 87 accord.... but i found one on my car??? it's the exact match on line with it's i.d.  numbers.... looks exactly like it with the picture of the 3 prongs and everything... even labeled on the site as 87 honda accord fuel pump relay.... so why is this on my cart if the book says it's not supposed to be there???? im still talkin about the relay in the pic above... and i found my information on the relay at www.rockauto.com located by the numbers on it's side < Message edited by Hatchit -- 3/11/2007 9:10:59 PM > _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 25

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/11/2007 11:23:41 PM    deserthonda Posts: 3575 Score: 0 Joined: 12/3/2005 Status: offline Ok amigo,, i am going to say this 1 more time .. there is a fuel cut off relay. it is located on hte back of the fuse box ..rt low   look at the diagram i kind of put together .... call the dealer ( i am not sure that you can get it at other part stores )  and tell them you need a fuel pump cut off relay ,,,,, i have replaced a  bunch  of them doing my years of working on hondas ....... http://www.hondapartswarehouse.com/parts_detail.asp?cat1=ACCORD&cat2=1987&cat3=4DR%20DX%20&cat4=KA4AT&cat5=E&Cat6=B%20%2013%20%20 open the picture and click on it to make it bigger ,, Now do you see # 1 ?? that's the fuel pump cut off relay , it even has the part # there for you .. < Message edited by deserthonda -- 3/11/2007 11:30:43 PM > _____________________________ No Year No Model in Your signature No Help from me Take a look in the DIY section before asking for help Always Diagnose First,,, Before Replacing Parts (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 26

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/12/2007 11:14:45 AM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline ok i got it right here.... this it it right here right????grey box with the holes.... thats the shut off relay..... then why did i find this one next to it on the same boardon my car found byME so i know no-ones trying to mess with me.... and i hope you dont think i messing with you,,,, im just confused cuz everyone says that this part here is not suppossed to be on my car but i found it...and it says on-line FUEL PUMP RELAY??? _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to deserthonda) Post #: 27

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/12/2007 11:33:56 AM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline ok the black relay....i just found to be a multi-purpose relay...so thats my bad... but could this multi-purpose relay be the problem ???cuz it didn't show a conection with an OHM's reader with any combonation of the 3 prongs....or is that no a acurate way of testing thoughs relays? < Message edited by Hatchit -- 3/12/2007 11:42:44 AM > _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 28

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/12/2007 3:40:09 PM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline ok so honda confimed that 38300SE3013 {FR-3309} thats a turn signal relay and that when most mechanics replace a fuel pump that you must replace the chut off relay aswell... thats straight from honda.... so they culd be justtryig to sell me a part just cause it's 50 bucks.... but i found one at NAPA for 45.... i pick that up at 3pm (california time) today...and will let you kow if that fixed the problem.... i thank you guys a million for yur help... you saved me alot of time and $$$ i can never thank you enough.... if there is anything i can do for you guys or this site.... let me know CW.Wing@yahoo.com _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 29

RE: beautifuly clean 87 dx manual fuel pump problem - 3/14/2007 12:42:51 AM    Hatchit   Posts: 30 Score: 0 Joined: 3/5/2007 Status: offline up-date on the car.... she's still aint running... pumps now operatioal.... but is still not pumpin to the engen.... relay has been replaced and fixed the ignition switch problem.... but still wont pump... i was told there is some kind of modual controle box, or some thing,  under the back seat???? is that effecting my fuel line supply??? < Message edited by Hatchit -- 3/14/2007 1:01:52 AM > _____________________________ Hatchit...87 accord DX, hatch back (no auto seat belts)2nd ower, little wear-N-tare, CLEAN AS NEW(in 1987) (in reply to Hatchit) Post #: 30

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