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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/11/2007 12:22:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I got in an arguement about this a while back,   for the most part i was wrong in it cause i never heard any information on it and i went based on what i was use to.     Ulitmately the auto is computer controled you have the benifit that no manuel driver has,    when youre in d4 and drop it into first you wont kill your engine.   It is purely based on the quality of the transmission for what it can take and if theres something wrong with it to begin with it wont be able to take a whole lot anyways. 
The best example is paddle shifters.  A car with a paddleshifter is still an automatic transmission, the difference is its just taking an electronic signal saying shift.  About the only things that will screw up your transmission are neutral drops, wreaks, faulty TCU, and too much HP.     You cant really over rev with autos cause it wont shift down when its outside of its power band.   Behold the power of the computer controled tranmission.    


I forgot to add oil thats too thick or too thin, and shifting  into reverse while moving forward, and fluffy kittens

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/11/2007 8:10:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		What about shifting into PARK while moving forward?  One of my buddies was drunk a few years back and was riding in the passenger side of my Auto Mustang and did that to me when I was doing about 50 MPH
Surprisingly, it didn't hurt the tranny. I couldn't believe it!  I almost killed HIM though.

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/11/2007 8:34:20 PM   
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03Sleeper's photo gallery 		Well, I did try shifting between 1 2 D3 and D (5).

It basically became a manual....the sound, the jerk, etc. etc.

But I dunno, as much as I love driving stick shift...having an auto allows me to multi-task and not worry about shifting in the city.


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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 1:17:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		im not sure... but i dont think shifting into park would ruin the transmission       putting it into park for the transmission is the same as putting it into N  its just park also has the whole wheel lock thing.  

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 3:17:30 PM   
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2002haccord's photo gallery 		umm if im correct i read my manual a while back and recall it saying the tranny can be shifted from 1-D4 and  D4-1.and i got a 02 accord 4cyl

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 4:01:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		manual... solid clutch solid connection between engine and tires no liquid coupling or planetary gear sets... no power sucking oil pump so more power goes to the ground...

Auto... Liquid coupling threw a torque converter... sets of planetary gears provide gear reduction... clutches and bands provide drive driven and held members for the planetary gears... power sucking oil pump needed to drive the tranny...

manuals are funner and get better gasmileage because of less paracitic draw on the engine... autos are easyer and sadly most women find them more enjoyable to drive... mmm woman that can use a stick know the way strait to my heart!

A manual tranny is always strengthened because well its always solid... a automatic applys more clutches and extra bands to strengthen itself for the small ammount of added stress that is about to be added to it...



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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 4:54:37 PM   
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umm if im correct i read my manual a while back and recall it saying the tranny can be shifted from 1-D4 and  D4-1.and i got a 02 accord 4cyl


and this is suppose to be in reference to whos comment?

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 6:10:53 PM   
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03Sleeper's photo gallery 		Women probably drive autos because they can put on makeup, drink coffee, and do other various acts while not worrying about shifting. That's my guess. I've seen women drive with their feet...I got off the next exit.

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 10:20:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm just going to say what I know... there is nothing wrong with shifting up from 1 - d4 but shifting down can be bad for the transmission computer as you are telling it to do something that it would do by itself if it needed to and are basically screwing up the system.  As for going into park while moving, that will rip out your transmission... never do it again...

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 10:25:22 PM   
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03Sleeper's photo gallery 		Lol....I need to see how good my auto shifting skills are....im gonna time it against a manual.

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 10:43:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Except if you go from 1 to 2 in an auto its not going to instantly change... its not like you're shifting it, you're just giving the automatic computer the option to change gear.  So as soon as the auto feels the time is right it'll change... its not like a tip-tronic, you're not controlling the car, you're just giving it more options or less options.  You'd probably even slow it down shifting it yourself because it'll hold gear while the computer is processing... probably bad for your engine to hold high revs that long as well.

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/12/2007 11:11:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		sssexy no... shifting down is just as easy on the tranny as shifting up from 1... theres no difference... it barely even talks to the computer it just actuates a manual valve that directs flow of oil to the 2-1 band (extra holding band for low gears) and locks the 3rd clutch into gear (3rd gear is for  engine braking)        

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/13/2007 1:35:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		side note, im pretty sure that tiptronic is a computer controlled thing as well

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/13/2007 1:49:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is, but it requires your input... it'll change depending on what you do

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RE: Shifting with an automatic.... - 4/13/2007 4:25:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		but it doesnt make it any less of an automatic because its still using a torque converter, if you have that happy little torque converter it changes the rules purely based on the fact you have to rely on the computer to do the shifting for you,   tiptronic is just one of those things that provide the illusion of having a manual.   

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