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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 2:30:07 PM   
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Well '24' I for one have never seen a marketing plan from them. What I pay attention too is what the results are on my driver. If you don't like the polymers maybe you should consider taking of the clear coat that is on it off and just use your fathers wax. Simonize was a great wax, when used with corn starch it was a fabulous shine, However things do change and improve. Polymer coatings are a great example.
AxCxOxRxDx I have been using the polymers with great success to the point that people wait for me to return to the car to find out what I use on it. When used as directed there are no swerls or lines, just a pure color.I do not put anything on my SRT Jeep that is not going to do anything but make it better. When my wife gets her new Accord it too will be treated the same. Go for it.

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 2:40:18 PM   
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Here's the Answer to your question from me: for the record I use meguires (sp?) or Turtle wax most of the time... I do REALLY want to get a bottle of Wet paint, that stuff looks like it's amazing. 

Here's my rant about Simonize System5: (not the normal store bought stuff)

As for Simonize.  They now have a System 5 product that licensed people can put on a car that works much the same as the polymers (if I am understanding your explination of them).  Except it encorporates a Teflon coat into the paint surface as well and it does work great and it is perminant so I still don't know what to think about it.  I just mention this as a side note, there is no sense in going out and looking for it becasue I believe you can only purchase the System5 stuff from an authorized installer.  If you used this stuff on your own and had any swirl marks, water spots, tar or bugs they are in there PERMINENTLY after 72 hours.


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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 2:45:46 PM   
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I just prefer other products.  My current favorite wax is IBIZ.  It goes on super easy, doesn't have to dry before you wipe it off, doesn't care about a hot surface, etc.  Also, they say that it can last a half year.

I spray detail my car twice a week and wax every other month.  If you like the principle of the polymer products, by all means use them ..... I don't.  This includes PTFE and Teflon products.


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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 2:52:38 PM   
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same here and my car has had a great shine.one more question. Someone told me that since ur car becomes slick does that mean anytime a small rock that flies and hits ur car does little or no damage?

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 3:00:00 PM   
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hmmm .... why worry about small rocks when your car repels bricks?

I don't think a wax gives much protection against chips.


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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 3:11:52 PM   
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LOL good point falklore. Thanks guys ur all awesome

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 3:14:48 PM   
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hmmm .... why worry about small rocks when your car repels bricks?

I don't think a wax gives much protection against chips.



*ROFL* That's great.... That's one of the funniest posts I've seen in a while...  I'm half tempted to put that in a signature line....


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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 3:27:50 PM   
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No ... what I meant is that after you apply one of the polymer products, you can't get it off of the paint.  It's not pointless, but I prefer to use products that if I screw up for one reason or another, I can correct it.


There are hundreds of polymer products. What you need to clarify is the over the counter products YOU are using are hard to get off. Don't clump them all together because they are not all the same. There are some superb polymer products out there, I know because I use some of them and they are easy on, easy off, with outstanding looks and durability.

I do agree that auto finish products containing teflon are a joke.

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/17/2007 4:39:45 PM   
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All of you have new cars with "clear coat", waxing is really not what you should be doing, the wax clings to the surface and collects dirt and after time will yellow somewhat. Then what one has to do is use a cleaner to get it off so you can put more on--what a plan--. The mothers Synwax is an engineered synthetic polymer, not a wax,and guess what so is your clear coat, so in effect you are coating with a clear coat polymer, and the finish will look like glass and feel the same. When in between if applications of 'ICE' spray is used, it to is a synthetic polymer and will remove any water marks if they appear. ICE is made by Turtle Wax an excellent product also. ICE also has a car wash soap that does not have any wax. If you do get any of the polymers you need to remove them with a microfiber cloth as directed on the label. So do yourself a favor and get out of the 'wax business' By the way both product remove very easily. I know that there are other products out there that are also polymers and are just as good.


If you are using Simonize from the 50's & 60's you are correct. Modern waxes (true wax) do not yellow. Personally I am in favor of sealants but many top detailers use a spray wax, such as Optimum, for the last topper. I'm far from a top detailer but I use wax upon customer request. Sometimes it's used on my own car after the sealant bonds to the paint. Optimum is a blend of Canauba and Polymers and it is the easiest applying, best looking wax you have ever used. The paste waxes have come a long way also. Not knocking your choice of product just putting a little correction into the mix.

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/18/2007 2:58:56 PM   
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I wasn't refering to the application, I meant that polimers are hard to remove should you need to.  I'm aware that they provide a nice finish and that there are hundreds of these products, but I still prefer non-polimer products.  My finishing spray is a polimer, but it doesn't last nearly as long as a "waxing" polimer product.

BTW - Teflon is great for pots and pans!


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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/18/2007 3:06:48 PM   
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The only pot/pan that should ever contain teflon is a saute or omlette pan.... (yes this is way off topic)

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/18/2007 6:17:23 PM   
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I wasn't refering to the application, I meant that polimers are hard to remove should you need to.  I'm aware that they provide a nice finish and that there are hundreds of these products, but I still prefer non-polimer products.  My finishing spray is a polimer, but it doesn't last nearly as long as a "waxing" polimer product.

BTW - Teflon is great for pots and pans!



I gotcha now. I've had no problems stripping them off at all. A decent buffer and a good polish will take the paint down to squeaky clean in short order. There are also chemical cleaners like Klasse AIO that will remove it.

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/18/2007 6:54:31 PM   
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That cleaner is good to know about; thanks!  I never thought of a wax washing chemical .... gonna look it up after I'm done on HAF.  I'm not an autobody tech and I don't trust myself with a rotory buffer.  I have a small orbital that I use mostly for my leather and other people's cars.  Also, I hardly polish at all.  The last time I did was when I claybar'd the car bout a year and a half ago ... with the amount of spray detailing and waxing I do it's not necessary.  I guess I just had a few bad experiences with the poly waxes a long time ago and have been happy with what I've been using.

What poly-wax do you recommend?  I'll give it a try and let you know what I think.  Also what about polish .... just good to have around (17 yr. old sister has already needed a bunch of marks removed).

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/19/2007 5:37:56 AM   
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Poorboy's SSR 2.5 and 1 are my go to polishes but a Porter Cable or Cyclo buffer is required. I don't know of any that work well by hand. The three from Optimum are tops but again, gotta have a decent buffer/polisher. Two product that I use are Aqua Wax (a sealant) and Optimum wax (a wax) and they are superb. They are sprays and are easily hand applied. They look their best the day after application.

Klasse AIO can also be applied and removed by hand, super easy to use and leaves a brilliant shine of its own. It must be topped with sealant or wax. Wet Paint (see sticky @ top of this section) is also an excellent cleaner that seals and leaves a brilliant shine. It can be done entirely by hand. You can top it but it isn't required like Klasse AIO.

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RE: best car wax (exterior) - 9/19/2007 7:14:14 AM   
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Cool, thanks!  I've read about Wet Paint and had planned to try it out.  So for polishing, the orbital is no good?

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