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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/19/2007 11:29:09 AM   
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When I had my car for sale they asked if it was smoked in, I lied and said no (because it hadn't been smoked in yesterday...) they came and looked at it, sat in it, drove it and never made a single comment, I've had non smokers in my car and they can't tell

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/19/2007 12:18:10 PM   
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Also, the cabin filter is a quick and easy fix for a smell..

I just replaced mine (I don't smoke in the car) and DAMN it was duuuuurrrrty... About 4 times dirtier than my intake filter... WHEW!

As for the ashes being the problem, try lining a cup or something with aluminum foil, and then some syran wrap (food wrap)...
The wrap will attract the ashes.. and the foil will stop the whole thing from melting/going up in flames...

i asked my aunt, and she uses this technique in her car and it's pretty clean.

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/19/2007 1:06:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sir_nasty

When I had my car for sale they asked if it was smoked in, I lied and said no (because it hadn't been smoked in yesterday...) they came and looked at it, sat in it, drove it and never made a single comment, I've had non smokers in my car and they can't tell


I could do the same except for a few tiny burns that were already there when I bought it.
Sometimes I suspected my wife of causing one of them back when she smoked (before she found out she was pregnant.)  I swore one was not there when I bought it...she insisted it was.

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/20/2007 9:26:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: klrspz

Also, the cabin filter is a quick and easy fix for a smell..

I just replaced mine (I don't smoke in the car) and DAMN it was duuuuurrrrty... About 4 times dirtier than my intake filter... WHEW!

As for the ashes being the problem, try lining a cup or something with aluminum foil, and then some syran wrap (food wrap)...
The wrap will attract the ashes.. and the foil will stop the whole thing from melting/going up in flames...

i asked my aunt, and she uses this technique in her car and it's pretty clean.


Hey about the cabin filter.. where is that located?

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/20/2007 9:45:51 AM   
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Behind the glovebox.  You gotta remove the glovebox to get to it.  From the DIY section: http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/HOW_TO%2C%2C%2C_Replace_Cabin_air_Filter/m_20341/tm.htm

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/20/2007 9:54:26 AM   
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One thing to note...

the clips come out with the filter-holder.. I originally thought they were party of the larger assembly, and couldn't get it off..

just squeeze the clips inward, and pull towards you, et viola!

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/20/2007 11:14:20 AM   
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not in the 6th gen!!!!  there are a few screws to take out the glove box ..... it's not that bad though ..... took me about 45 minutes since the back of the box got stck on something and I was being real careful to not break anything.

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/22/2007 9:12:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 00AccordLX5spd

Behind the glovebox.  You gotta remove the glovebox to get to it.  From the DIY section: http://www.hondaaccordforum.com/HOW_TO%2C%2C%2C_Replace_Cabin_air_Filter/m_20341/tm.htm


THANKS ALOT !!!!!!

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/28/2007 8:48:02 AM   
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OK.  Got the car suggestions down.  Now I want to see if anyone has any good suggestions on this one:
My wife and I got a steal of a deal on our home.  We bought it for around $10k less that the appraisal value.
Some of this, I am sure was due to the fact that the previous owners had smoked in the house.
Before we moved in we did the following:
-Cleaned the walls with "Mean Green"
-Changed out the air filters
-primered(kilz) & painted every AC vent intake & outlet
-Painted every wall in the house (except for the bathrooms. My wife will have to live with the wallpaper for a while cause I am NOT tearing it down right now)
-Painted 1/2 of the ceilings in the house (FYI, it really sucks painting ceilings)
-Tried "ionic" air purifiers.
-Steam cleaned the carpet multiple times
-febreeze, candles, etc..

Sometimes I still swear I smell smoke.
Those previous owners were two old geezers who obviously never stepped foot outside nor cracked a window when they smoked.  When the pictures were removed from the walls, you could see brown outlines where they used to be.  Being an insurance adjuster, I originally suspected a previous house fire.  But after a little inspection of my own, I could tell the staining was from long time cigarette smoking.  Plus I got one of the best home inspectors in the business to run through the house with a fine tooth comb.

Anyways....can anyone think of anything I have not done?  the smell is not strong.  It is very subtle.  Most of the time I don't notice it unless I have been away from home for a few days.

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/28/2007 3:18:31 PM   
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If I were you, I'd wait for a day that you can leave all of the windows open all day and not be there.  Then get 2 or 3 of the large cans of Ozium and bomb the whole house with it with the windows closed.  Leave for 2-3 hours and then run through the entire house as fast as you can to get all of the windows open and get out.  Come back in 5 hours and the house will just smell like liquid soap ..... actually pretty strong.

That stuff disinfects the air ...... oh yeah .... leave Lucy at Grandma's house that day.


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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/28/2007 3:41:13 PM   
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Get an ionizer. Some people like ones with HEPA filters, but I do not.. Mostly because it's crap you have to clean and isn't cheap. Also, some people prefer O2 generators, which again I don't like cuz they're so expensive and just put new positive ions in the air. To remove smells, all you care about is negating the ions.

There's some ionizer lamps on ebay that i've been buying over the past 5-7 years, i get like 2-4 lamps for 20-30 bucks.. kinda depends on the deal going at the moment.

They're kinda art-deco looking, but don't have a bad look at all. Also has a dimmer switch on the light, so it's functional!
They're also really cheap, so if they crap out (they seem to last me a 9-12mo in normal conditions without cleaning.. you could probably clean them up and get them working again, but I don't bother most the time), they're easy to replace.
If i'm smoking in the room (cigs, weed, etc) then they might only last 5-6mo, and we all know smoke residue isn't easy to get off of materials.

I have more info in my head, but am too lazy to type right now...



-- OH!!!
and for the cars.. a smoker friend of mine suggested getting some stuff called Scotch Guard that is for cloth materials.. helps keep stains and smells from ever getting on the material.

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/29/2007 8:27:26 AM   
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Thanks for the suggestions.  i think the ionizers may be a little more up my alley at this time.  I would be afraid to bomb the house right now with an infant.  Even if we stayed gone for a few days.

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/29/2007 10:05:25 AM   
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Yeah ionizers are great...

So the initial suggestion i gave you was to go with cheap-os that can be thrown away if you get fed up with them. They aren't cleanable or anything.

There are nicer ones out there as well, i'm sure you've heard of something like the Ionic Breeze from sharper image.. that's a good product as well, but it's ~$100, and doesn't live too long (maybe 5-7 years in a clean env.).

There's some ionizers that have a "filter" that's really just a positively charged metal plate that attracts the larger dust components, and any side effects of converting ions to negative charges (ie, discharges of air molecules around can actually CAUSE dust to form quicker, but this tray would catch it). This will obviously require cleaning, and some are easy to clean.. some aren't...


good luck to ya

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/29/2007 12:14:48 PM   
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ya might want to be careful with how far you take it with the ionizers ..... ozone is a polutant and acts similar to chlorine, but decomposes much quicker.  A little smells nice and cleans the air.  A lot will irritate soft tissues like your eyes and throat ..... moreso on Lucy.  The Ionic Breeze come with a catalyst now to help with the overproduction of ozone.  In my bedroom I have a Holmes fan with an ionizer and charcoal filters along with a "HEPA type" filter ..... it's basically a HEPA with skins on the sides and it's packed with baking soda.  I also have an oval Ionizer/Ozone generator that Brookstone stopped selling about 2 years ago due to a hissing sound that it makes.  The combo works great!

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RE: For all the Smokers out there - 11/29/2007 12:24:29 PM   
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You are correct, but ionizers and O2 generators (ozone generators) are GENERALLY different things.

an ionizer simply negates ions, with minor (less than maybe .01% of by product being O2, not enough to even affect you) where as there are some ionizers with o2 generators built in. this will usually have something like a high powered capacitor and transformer specifically for generating O2 byproduct, aside from any ionizing that may be happening...
unless you're huffing the output of a high-powered ionizer i think yer ok really. the lamp versions i've mentioned are passive meaning there's no fan involved (and still manages to clear a 250sqft room in < 20min.. and trust me, it works.. 2 will have the room clean in 5-10 min flat), so you won't get much movement or directed output.

oh and you mentioned charcoal.. this is also a viable filter solution, but man i hate that stuff.. it's a bitch to clean (don't get it wet!!) and isn't cheap to replace; particularly as often as you need to replace it.


either way you go, they're good things, and are cool...
and, no matter what.. yer gunna die... so who cares about a lil o2 right?

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