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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 6:37:51 AM   
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mclaren ..... no

others .... good ideas ..... for SN's case, electric is essentially 100% efficient (97-99% in reality, but who cares about that).  When an electric heater energizes, the heater uses it's full potential (of the stage if multi-staged) which means that the heat output is 3.143 BTU's per hour per Watt.  Unlike a boiler, there are no efficiencies to complicate the review.  In the cae of electric forced unit heaters with local controls, you are best to just minimize its use (ie. - turn the temp down to 60-65 when nobody is using the room).

In the other case, where you have a boiler, you shouldn't turn the setback temp too low because the recharge time is too long  ..... also, you don't want the water in the system too cool too much.  Baseboards don't give out nearly as much heat as forced air, but they give the heat more uniformly and have thermal capacitance for when the system shuts down due to the heat in the water.  If your boiler produces enough heat that it cycles on only 50% of the time on the coldest days, you can turn down the boiler water setpoint temperature.  This will save energy by reducing thermal losses and also makes the boiler heat the water to a lower temperature on recharge.

Hardly any homes have multi-stage boilers so if there are any specific questions regarding them, PM me.

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 6:58:36 AM   
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I'm switching all the lights in my house over to the CFL's (Compact Florescent Lights) simply because they are massivly cheaper to use...

Check out this spreadsheet comparison about them that I just found.... it's AMAZING....

http://www.productdose.com/article.php?article_id=1142



I've already got these in every bulb in my house that they will fit.  Some lamps will not fit them cause the shade won't go over them right.
The first one has yet to burn out.
Anyways, a small tidbit of advice...when you buy them at WalMart, make sure you open the box and check all the bulbs.  Me and my wife bought a box of 8 once and 4 of them were broken.  Since I didn't check them at the store I didn't know if they were already broken when we bought them or if they broke in my trunk on the way home due to my mad driving skillz....

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 9:33:24 AM   
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This looks promising: http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Honda-Accord/225926/


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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 12:21:18 PM   
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Here are the atmosphere's gases and their concentrations:


Here are measurements of atmospheric CO2 concentration as observed by technicians at probably the most important observation station in the world (with the last few years of data selected by a box):


An enlargement of the data in the box that clearly shows the historical yearly cycle of CO2 concentration (the relatively straight line that cuts through the middle of the data is a running average, I believe):


Notice that the reported CO2 concentration in the first table - 0.0360% (360 ppm) - is now out of date. That data suggests that the table was published in about 1995.  The current concentration is about 383 ppm and will likely rise further in the future.  (Of course there is no way that we can predict that with scientific certainty, however.  As I said, it's all a matter of faith.)

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 1:57:40 PM   
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The thing about that chart that I found interesting is that if you look at the link from one of my first posts it shows co2 content over a couple million years, and according to  that chart we actually had a higher CO2 content about 125,000 years ago.  That's what I was wondering about

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 2:22:33 PM   
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You mean this one?:


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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 2:30:21 PM   
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How do they know what the levels were thousands of years ago?  They guess.
I don't believe the earth has been here for that long either.  But I know I am one of the very few who believes this.

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 2:32:59 PM   
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*ROFL* yes, I am a moron, I read it wrong, I was looking at temperature not CO2 levels.... 

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 2:53:27 PM   
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How do they know what the levels were thousands of years ago? They guess.
I don't believe the earth has been here for that long either. But I know I am one of the very few who believes this.


They drill out cylinders of ice from deep into the arctic, and can take samples via them... not sure how they find out from the samples... but thats how they do it.
watch "an inconvinient truth"

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 2:55:34 PM   
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I refuse to watch that movie.  And I think that is a BS way of obtaining a sample.

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 2:57:01 PM   
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now thats what I call open-mindedness.

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 2:59:17 PM   
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I refuse to watch that movie.  And I think that is a BS way of obtaining a sample.


*ROFL* I can practically see your middle finger sticking up.... You tell em 00Accord!


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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 3:00:58 PM   
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I'm with Jon on this one ...... it's kinda like how eye witnesses to crimes cause wrongfull prosecution.  Misinterpretation of data leads to falsehoods being accepted as fact.  I'd like to see the margin of error on those icebore tests.

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 3:02:09 PM   
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They are (I'm assuming) probably about as accurate as carbon dating, same theory

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RE: Have you guys seen these? - 12/4/2007 3:03:40 PM   
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ok .... what's the error on that???  I'd expect ice to be less accurate.

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