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tbird813 03-05-2011 11:25 AM

2011 accord ex-l
 
what size is the stock subwoofer?

khowland 03-05-2011 12:54 PM

8".... and somewhat pointless ;)

keep_hope_alive 03-05-2011 02:13 PM

If you want some output, an Image Dynamics IDQ 8" with a modest amplifier (300W is enough) would give you plenty more "ooomph". The trick would be sealing, stiffening, and deadening the rear deck so it didn't rattle like hell.

ID subs are built for free-air (infinite baffle) installations. You get some cancellation from the rear deck speakers sharing the same airspace. If one moves more than the other (sub vs speaker) then the weaker driver suffers.

tbird813 03-05-2011 03:16 PM

thanx

inoftz78 03-07-2011 07:29 PM

Additional Sub
 
I want to add a box in the trunk to compliment the factory system with a bit more low end. Where is the amp located for the factory sub so that i can tap into the preamp signal? I have a 2011 Accord Sedan EX-L V6. Any suggestions?

tbird813 03-08-2011 10:38 AM

^^ me too i was going to replace the stock one with a bigger one.

keep_hope_alive 03-08-2011 06:00 PM

if you add a sub, remove the stock sub. otherwise the bass pressure in the trunk will distort the factory sub anyway. you need a pathway between the trunk and cabin for bass. a box in the trunk will perform based on it's location and orientation.

not sure on the factory amp location. typical locations are behind the glove box or in the trunk...

khowland 03-08-2011 07:11 PM

your amp is behind the glove box.
how do you intend to provide the amp with the sub signal? note there are RCA level signals feeding the factory amp. just not in a nice RCA format. keep in mind the lower level bass rolloff as well the factory unit is known for.

keep_hope_alive 03-08-2011 07:24 PM

Typical place to get a signal is a LOC with auto turn-on fed from stock sub wiring. Leaving the stock sub disconnected will just hinder bass response.

khowland 03-09-2011 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive (Post 233301)
Typical place to get a signal is a LOC with auto turn-on fed from stock sub wiring. Leaving the stock sub disconnected will just hinder bass response.

I believe this is where you can get in trouble with this vehicle and the premium HU. Without disconnecting either the internal mics used for the ANC or cutting the leads to the internal amp marked ANC, he may get a annoying hum from the added sub. Since this HU is actually a Pioneer product with balanced low level signals feeding the factory amp, the best way to do this is to grap that signal, solder an RCA connector on it and run it to the amp. Clean and without the added ANC. Anything after the factory amp is going to have the ANC signal added to it. It has also been suggested that adding a MATRIX or like line driver to boost the low level in an attempt to counter the bass roll off at low volume levels.

inoftz78 03-09-2011 12:39 PM

new sub
 
thank you all for the input. I was planning to tap into the low end signal before the factory amp and run that to a new amp/sub setup. i would also use the amp power/ground/etc from the factory amp to keep things consistent, but with some extra low end.

tbird813 03-09-2011 10:57 PM

will the navi play dvd? or do i have to install another dvd player? if i put tvs in the headrest?

keep_hope_alive 03-10-2011 11:54 AM

Don't use factory amp power and ground wires. They are too small for any aftermarket amplifier. You need to run new power and ground wires, sized and fused per amp mfr recommendations. No exceptions.

keep_hope_alive 03-10-2011 11:56 AM

Not sure on the navi playing DVDs, nor on it having video outputs.

Most solutions are headrest monitors with integral DVD.

tbird813 03-13-2011 11:03 PM

thanx that sounds easier.

keep_hope_alive 03-13-2011 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by khowland (Post 233357)
I believe this is where you can get in trouble with this vehicle and the premium HU. Without disconnecting either the internal mics used for the ANC or cutting the leads to the internal amp marked ANC, he may get a annoying hum from the added sub. Since this HU is actually a Pioneer product with balanced low level signals feeding the factory amp, the best way to do this is to grap that signal, solder an RCA connector on it and run it to the amp. Clean and without the added ANC. Anything after the factory amp is going to have the ANC signal added to it. It has also been suggested that adding a MATRIX or like line driver to boost the low level in an attempt to counter the bass roll off at low volume levels.


excellent point. I neglected the ANC issue. thanks for jumping in.

Spyfunkr 06-06-2011 08:36 AM

New here, Grtz!

Got the same issue on a 2011 coupe. I agree with KHA, but add a ground wire connecting the new ground with the original to eliminate ground loop.

What is ANC?

Thanks!

Spyfunkr 06-06-2011 05:34 PM

Sorry, I did find a post describing the mics for ANC, which I am curious in learning more about. Ill search more.

So, I promised myself I would *try to stay off it. However, the sub is a joke. I like that they wired it, and I like that there is a space, and I love that they used line levels to feed a separate sub amp. So...

Anyone switched out the factory 8" sub for a bangin one? if so, drop some model #s

Are the doors and rear deck speakers possibly powered by an external amp, by chance?

Thanks, spy

keep_hope_alive 06-07-2011 10:55 PM

swapping the factory sub for an aftermarket model will only result in additional disappointment. the factory amp is inadequate, especially for a less efficient aftermarket subwoofer. more bass requires both sub and amp, then an enclosure and wiring and interface and ANC bypass.

i'm not sure if the top end model uses an external amp, i assume it would with a 270W rating. if so, popular locations are behind the glove box and in the trunk. i'd like to know myself.

Spyfunkr 06-08-2011 07:33 AM

Yep, i hear ya! not using the factory sub amp, which is external, sits behind the glove box and accepts balance line level input. plan to drop a modest mono amp under the passenger seat, seal and deaden the rear deck and slap a nice 8" sub and be done. this, of course is after i give the doors a serious upgrade, per your instructions. anc will be disabled.

Thanks, Spy

keep_hope_alive 06-09-2011 12:20 AM

sounds like a plan for good sound!


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