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Christopher Herrington 02-23-2012 01:17 PM

Speaker question
 
Looking at Beyma speakers to replace stock ones. Does anyone have input on them? Should I go with 6x9 & 6.5 coaxials or the 6.5 coaxial and 6.5 components?

keep_hope_alive 02-23-2012 06:43 PM

6x9 woofers only, 6.5 components. the passive crossover needs to be located in a logical location - depends on the location of tweeters (dash or door).

an aftermarket amp is required to get the most out of them.

Beyma makes good speakers.

what year accord?

Christopher Herrington 02-24-2012 12:50 PM

'05 Accord 3.0 V6 Coupe. I've got a JL 10W6 on a 500/1 and a 300/4 for the high end. Keeping OEM head unit so I need to find a line converter.

crispin 02-24-2012 12:56 PM

no you do not, those amps have a high level input built into them.

keep_hope_alive 02-24-2012 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by crispin (Post 271178)
no you do not, those amps have a high level input built into them.


correct, a so you only need the front/rear speaker level inputs to the 300/4 then take the RCA output on the 300/4 to the 500/1

Christopher Herrington 02-25-2012 11:49 AM

Enlighten me. I just figured a $20 part, a few three foot patch cords and some wire would do the trick.

crispin 02-25-2012 11:57 AM

your $20 part has much lower sound quality then the JL Amp has.

There is no reason to add a low quality part on the signal chain.

Look on the amp, you will see a selector for Hi or Low voltage inputs.

You will use HIGH VOLTAGE

Buy some RCA ends from ebay or radio shack, extend some some speaker wire connect the RCA ends connect them to the amp - DONE

I have had tons of those amps.

Here are 3 sitting on a shelf for my next system I am planning.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...f/101_3943.jpg

Christopher Herrington 02-25-2012 12:56 PM

Listen to this one. I could use the right rear wires for the rear speakers and sub, then use the left rear wires spliced into the front speaker wires at the HU for the front. Then I would only need power and two pairs of wires for the door speakers. No one uses side to side fade anyway.

Christopher Herrington 02-25-2012 01:00 PM

Ok, that's what I thought. I can just make those then use a splitter for the sub amp. Appreciate it. I used to do all of this stuff when I was a kid but have been out of it a while and amps weren't this sophisticated back then. I'm only 32 but that's a hundred in technology years. Yours looks like a monster system in the works.

crispin 02-25-2012 01:13 PM

Actually I would recommend it like this

Tie into the speakers from the HU eiother front or rear. Rear is easier as there is less wire to run.

I would cut the wires going to the rear speakers, extend that, add the RCA ends and connect it to the input of the 500/1 setting the voltage level to high and also set input sensing to 'on'

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...f/101_3948.jpg

then from the output section of the 500/1 run a short rca patch cord to the 300/4
set the output to "full range"

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...f/101_3944.jpg

crispin 02-25-2012 01:17 PM

run the patch rca cable from the 500/1 output to the "FRONT INPUTS" on the 300/4

set the input channels to 2
set the voltage level to 'LOW"

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...f/101_3951.jpg

now run the speaker outputs from the front (of the 300/4) to the HU, cut the wires going to the front speakers and patch the speaker wires from the amp to the wires going to the front speakers

run the speaker output from the rear outputs (of the 300/4) and run them to the rear speakers.

Adjust the gains and crossovers on the front and rear of the 300/4 till everything sounds perfect.

You are now done.

tuning tip, adjust the gains down in the rear so more sound comes from the front speakers to give a better sound stage.

Any questions feel free to ask here or PM me.

Have fun

Christopher Herrington 02-25-2012 01:46 PM

I plan on doing that for the sub and rear speakers. But I was still going to keep the fronts separate to keep front to back fade possible. Likely won't ever used it, but still have the option.

crispin 02-25-2012 01:54 PM

well you can but if you set the gains correctly on the 300/4 there is no need for the fader on the HU.

I have set-up many many systems in my 38 years (not sure how old that makes me in Tech years) - once you set it, you can forget it (that is how I do it)

Christopher Herrington 02-25-2012 07:44 PM

I'll try it with just the rear speaker. I'll run new wires to the doors so I won't have to get behind the HU. I'm just out of practice with this stuff because I thought of that after the fact. I just need to adjust the amps right. Thanks.

keep_hope_alive 03-03-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by Christopher Herrington (Post 271290)
Listen to this one. I could use the right rear wires for the rear speakers and sub, then use the left rear wires spliced into the front speaker wires at the HU for the front. Then I would only need power and two pairs of wires for the door speakers. No one uses side to side fade anyway.

don't do what you are suggesting. never mix up left and right signals - you need to maintain your balance at all times. you don't use balance but you NEED left and right stereo separation. you would have left channel front and right channel rear - which would sound terrible and defeat the purpose of upgrading the stereo completely. front/rear fader you can give up, if you wish.

if it were me, i'd run wire from the HU back to the amps and use both front and rear speaker wires as inputs. i'd want my front speakers and subs on the front HU output, and rear speakers on the rear output. that way i can fade to front to attenuate rear speakers, and still have balance. you want more sound from the front than the rear anyway.

with this, you'd have high level inputs on the 300/4 (4ch input) both front and rear, and a patch cable to the 500/1 with low level input selected.

i like having level control at my fingertips. Crispin's method using the high level on the 500/1 works just fine - but you lose any fader control at the HU. you can still balance front/rear levels at the amps.


running wire is part of doing an install - you cannot shy away from it. wiring, in general, is the most vital part of the installation and should receive the most effort.


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