Honda Accord Forum - Honda Accord Enthusiast Forums

Honda Accord Forum - Honda Accord Enthusiast Forums (https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/forum/)
-   DIY Answers. (https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/forum/diy-answers-28/)
-   -   Setting Base Idle speed (https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/forum/diy-answers-28/setting-base-idle-speed-38734/)

JimBlake 03-12-2011 07:32 PM

Setting Base Idle speed
 
I was sure I had written this up before, but I can't find it...

This applies to Accords of the 1990 - 2002 range. Someone who knows more about earlier Accords, feel free to modify the range of model years.

Background:
Honda's idle-control system is a little bit finicky. It should be set up this way because otherwise the ECU will try to fight against any other adjustments. The "BASE" idle is a low idle, too low for normal operation. But it's the basis for the IACV to operate properly within it's control range.

Fix problems first:
- find & fix any vacuum leaks
- clean the throttle body bore & throttle plate
- clean the IACV and FITV (beginning 1998 there is no FITV)
- make sure the throttle plate closes completely
- - (mechanical stop-screw is only used to prevent it from wedging stuck closed)
- make sure the throttle cable goes a bit slack
- - (throttle cable is never used to adjust idle)
- make sure the cooling system has no air pockets (they confuse the system)

Find the parts first.
- Idle-Air Control Valve (IACV) is usually bolted to the back of the intake manifold.
- Idle-Air bypass screw is just above the throttle bore, recessed in a hole in the throttle body, it's usually a brass screw with a straight slot for a screwdriver. It has an O-ring that should be checked as a potential vacuum leak.

Procedure:
- Warm the engine up completely.
- Turn off all loads (AC, blowers, defoggers, stereo, EVERYTHING)
- Up to 1997; Unplug wire harness from IACV (engine will almost stall)
- - For 1998-2002; unplug the EVAP purge valve (see post #13 below).
- Adjust the idle-air bypass valve for 550 RPM
- - (PLEASE anyone with specific RPM for certain years chime in)
- Turn the engine off & plug everything back in

Now you should force the system to re-learn the idle behavior:
- Allow the engine to cool down completely
- Reset your ECU (different years pull various fuses)
- Start the engine without touching the gas pedal
- Allow it to run & warm up completely without touching the gas pedal

That should do it...

JimBlake 03-12-2011 07:33 PM

Now for some specifics...

For 1998-2002 Accord, there is no FITV. That function is built into the newer version of the IACV.

Reset the ECU by pulling fuse #13 in the fusebox at the right-end of the dashboard (near the right door hinges).

JimBlake 03-12-2011 07:36 PM

For 2003 & newer (especially later when they have motorized throttles) the procedure is driven by Honda's proprietary scan-tool. Never done it, don't know whether there's a do-it-yourself way around that.

JimBlake 03-12-2011 07:37 PM

Someone please chime in if they know whether this applies to the V-6 cars or not...

jcollins6 03-23-2011 09:10 AM

This may be an unneccessary question however I am going to ask anyway. Is the process the same for all engines(4 cyl) or are there more specific steps for a f23a1 engine? I am trying my hardest to not sound too much like a noob ;).

JimBlake 03-23-2011 11:15 AM

It's good for the F23A1, including the reminder in post #2 that your engine doesn't have an FITV.

RobinsonRicer 11-21-2012 01:34 PM

I should add that some F22B1's do not have an FITV. My 97 does not have one.

The factory manual for the 97 accords says
550 +/- 50rpm for F22B1 and B2
620 +/- 50rpm for F22B5 and F20B3
When setting the idle when the IACV is not connected.

When plugging it back in and restarting the engine it should be
700 +/- 50rpm for F22B1 and B2
770 +/- 50rpm for F22B5 and F20B3

WheelBrokerAng 11-23-2012 01:27 PM

Hello!
 
1 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by jcollins6 (Post 235111)
This may be an unneccessary question however I am going to ask anyway. Is the process the same for all engines(4 cyl) or are there more specific steps for a f23a1 engine? I am trying my hardest to not sound too much like a noob ;).

:eek: But Jcollins, with your one post, you are a Noob..

Welcome to the HAF.. :)

jjtjr 12-20-2012 07:03 AM

I want to than all of you for your support! The car is running very good, and i think it was the adjustment for the idle that did the trick. What a great bunch of people! I am so glad i joined this forum! Again, I thank you all for your support, Jerry.

HondaAccordEXUSMC 03-23-2014 09:43 PM

will be using this info ASAP...thanks guys

Gerryz 11-04-2016 12:58 PM

Thanks for the very comprehensive message. Will get right on it.

Rachel Ann Cook 07-15-2019 01:05 AM

Extremely helpful. Thank you all who posted here. This fixed so much.

Alex 'Kimo' Hawk 10-03-2019 08:30 PM

99 Accord LX 2.3l setting idle base speed (from service guide)
 
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hon...6310cd958f.png
Here's what the service manual says for 98-02

It's not the IACV but the Evap plug.. Aloha!

The EVAP Canister Purge Valve is mounted on the firewall, behind/below the intake manifold.

JimBlake 10-08-2019 08:36 AM

Thanks for posting that. My method has worked for my 1998, but I can't argue against the shop manual...

BTW, welcome to HAF.

Alex 'Kimo' Hawk 02-10-2020 08:01 AM

Aloha
 

Originally Posted by Alex 'Kimo' Hawk (Post 387542)
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hon...6310cd958f.png
Here's what the service manual says for 98-02

It's not the IACV but the Evap plug.. Aloha!

The EVAP Canister Purge Valve is mounted on the firewall, behind/below the intake manifold.

Aloha.. Hi Everybody.. Sorry to correct You Jim, but the EVAP pirgr valve is not on the firewall, it's located towards the front of the vehicle, on the intake manifold.. gonna look for s pic in my hundreds I've taken. Haha I've done basically EVERYTHING to My engine by now. The latest is, code p0325, replaced wiring (full of oil, long story), and sensor. Asked a friend for a 27mm deep socket, he gave Me a 1 inch. Sensor got wedged, tried to wiggle socket off and BROKE THE THREADED PART IN MY ENGINE BLOCK. Nightmares getting it out. Drilled hollow and Still not coming out. Even My 'screw out' set didn't work.. I swear this car is haunted. lol But, it's running!
Aloha❤️🤙💪💪💪💪😊❤️
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hon...4ec2880bbd.jpg
Nightmare!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hon...1e3a1b31e5.jpg
😫
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.hon...aee5ea5d74.jpg
Black plug is EVAP purge.. this pic is September last year. It looks like a whole new engine now! Aloha

Joshua Antaya 07-22-2021 02:11 PM

Inspection in 9 days... ugh
 
Going to try this today. New IACV, new coolant/air hoses/ tune-up, fuel injectors, gas tank, charcoal canister, TPS, MAP sensor, brake booster, radiator coolant (full flush Asian blue, have been running it for years, 0 air bubbles every time), new gas cap, easy flush to trans, etc. Randomly started this crazy idle had P0505 coded, cleared that up, cleared up the air/fuel ratio codes, lead to map sensor, 3rd one (4th for the car), no code for MAP yet, idle still going crazy 1200-2200. 98 DX Model ( pain in the butt, DX has a few varied parts from all the other 98-02 models). Even picked up the manual cheap this week finally. Will report here if this process doesn't clear the issue.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:00 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands