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Hi i have a 2000 accord ex coupe (4 cylinder 5 speed) and my friend said he could install a short shift kit and cold air intake in my car, but i just wanted to know if it was worth it, will i notice a big difference in performance by installing these things? thanks

A minimal but noticeable gain in performance from a CAI..

And the short shifter basically shortens your throw..A good mod for comfort..

It won't turn it into a 396 Camaro but it will help a bit as cjdm mentioned.

ok thanks guys...
and how much horsepower (roughly) would the CAI add??

your right, it will still be reliable.

as for the hp, not much.

I wouldnt expect more than 15 hp, but they add a cool whooshing sound. I'd say it would be a good investment

-$tanley

15hp? I doubt that, 3hp maybe.

I had Intake, Exhaust, Cat delete, intake manifold, throttle body, header, new plugs and wires, hondata, and a dyno tune on my car and it made like 25-30whp over stock.

Well, they vary from car to car. Some get 5 hp, others I heard get 10 hp, and I admit, I was a little exagerated there.

And since were on the subject of CAI, I told my friend (who really doesn't know much about cars, he tries to compare himself to me) that I was going to hurt my engine with that Injen SRI that you guys suggested to me. I was like, "no, I wont." But he kept telling me that. Will a SRI hurt my engine? I seriously doubt it, but I have been wrong about things before, so ill ask people smarter than me

-$tanley

I see no possible way of it hurting your car. I personally have one on both my cars, all my friends have them, every hawwr on this site has one.

Thank you! I didnt explane what happened that well what... happened, but I was discussing the plans for my Accord, and I mentioned the SRI and he told me it would hurt my engine. He didnt believe me when I said, "What are you smoking? Why would people buy something that would hurt their car (to a certain extent)?" He's just stubborn, and tries to stump me because I know a whole lot more about cars than he does. Me and my other friend was staring at him oddly after he said that.

Thanks for the info!

-$tanley

Ask him for an in depth explanation of how it hurts your engine.

Okay. Like I said, he knows very little about cars, so im not sure what kind of answer I will get out of him. Kinda feel stupid now haha

-$tanley

He said with more air intake the pistons can get to higher temperature with more material burningper square inch. He says it will build up heat with more warm air under the hood

-$tanley

Right...........first of all, in all honesty, intakes make very minimal difference in power. I am real curious to do a dyno run with one and without, maybe next time I am over to the dyno.

LOL, this is too funny. It's filtered air in a shiny tube.

Exactly why I haven't wasted money on one yet. Why waste yours on a dyno run.... unless they let you do it free?

prob not free, but cheap, since I will already be giving them a lot of money. And I just want to put the debate to bed.

Its proven that they make power, the same issue of Import Tuner? with the g23 build has the Evo X article when they dyno each bolt on. On our engines though, they're pretty much useless.

Yeah, then when every one asks about them 4 times a week we can just copy and paste the dyno sheets and be over and done with it.

true true, good idea.

too bad I won't have them for a year, if I do even get them lol. Maybe the local subi club will have another dyno day and I could get it for cheap.

How much do dyno tests go for? I'll probably do it. But seriously, I need information about the SRI intake. So basically the heats no big deal?

-$tanley

The place I use is $75 for 3 pulls, that seems to be the going rate.

It's fine... dyno'ing is not cheap, usually in the area of $100/hr for renting, maybe a little more for tuning around here

Another question that I have is will I lose power with a SRI because of the heat? If that is true, if I heat wrap it will I get the power back?

-$tanley

you wont have as much power as a cold air intake but you'll still see an improvement over oem. the heat wrap will definitely help, but the air going into the filter will still be warm. im about to convert my cold air into a short ram though. better throttle response

Sounds great. Thanks for all your help

-$tanley

I had a CAI on my Accord. IMHO, SRI is better due to ease of maintenance ..... all other factors are negligible or irrelevant.

If you have insane snow or flooding where you live, stay away from CAI.

Not where I live. I live where it rains often and the rest is hot. And rain here isnt too bad, but I would never take my baby to the snow. My dads truck, sure haha but I'm going to go with the SRI

-$tanley

Dyno run goes for around $90/3 pulls on average where im from..

And more to get a tune...

And X2 on what falkore said,SRI is definitely easier to maintain.

I think it just depends on what you want. I've had both and they didnt seem too much different to me really. My cai hasnt really changed in throttle response or low end torque or take off. But you can tell a little difference when it gets up to about 3000rpm full throttle. It does sound cool though. Thats just my $.02

Also, if it matters to you, I don't trust the cleaning ability of the dryflow filters ..... I only recommend a name brand oiled filter.

Hey L2R,
SCC (sport compact car) just did this nice write-up about exactly what you are thinking about doing on the dyno. They tested 3-4 intakes vs the stock one; the cool part is they measured a lot more than just torque and HP.I'm at work and don't have the mag on me, but I believe it's in Jan '09 or Feb '09 issue.

If people don't want to buy the mag to read the article I supposed I could type some of it out here.

**throwing the link to the article I referenced above in an intake thread as it would seem more at home there