Honda Accord Forum - Honda Accord Enthusiast Forums

Honda Accord Forum - Honda Accord Enthusiast Forums (https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/forum/)
-   General Tech Help (https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/forum/general-tech-help-7/)
-   -   1457 evap code coincidence or not... (https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/forum/general-tech-help-7/1457-evap-code-coincidence-not-27109/)

finch13 12-06-2009 08:39 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Hope this is of some use to you: (I know you probably don't have Honda's outdated PGM Tester :D, but AllData tells me to go directly to this TSB when I look up the EVAP bypass solenoid [aka Vacuum Cut Valve Bypass Solenoid]. I don't know why they require the PGM tester. I can't see any reason why you can't remove the solenoid and apply power to it to test it. From experience, I've found it easier to just disconnect all the lines from the canister and drop the whole assembly down, valves and all. Much easier to work with on a workbench. Also, let the canister vent for an hour or so, then you should be able to safely use a torch to heat up stubborn screws and remove them. My P1457 ended up being the EVAP Vent Shut Valve, but nonetheless, the repair procedures are similar.)

I also included Honda TSB 01-011 for the EVAP Vent Shut Valve, the diagnostic should be very similar to what you would do with the stupid Honda scan tool.

Honda Service Bulletin 03-001
January 28, 2003

Applies To:
See VEHICLES AFFECTED MIL Comes On With DTC P1457: EVAP Bypass
Solenoid Valve Failure

SYMPTOM
The MIL is on, and DTC P1457 [leak detected in EVAP control system (EVAP control canister system)] is set.

PROBABLE CAUSE
The EVAP bypass solenoid valve can fail due to corrosion. The solenoid valve may get water inside. If the water contains road salt, the solenoid windings could corrode, causing the valve to fail. In a few rare instances, the corrosion could be severe enough to cause an internal short in the solenoid valve, which could damage the ECM/PCM. If this happens, both the bypass solenoid valve and the ECM/PCM would need to be replaced.
Vehicles driven in the Northeastern part of the U.S. are more likely to have this problem because of the salting of roads during the winter months. Vehicles driven where salt is not used on the roads are much less likely to have this problem.

VEHICLES AFFECTED
1998-02 Accord
1998-00 Civic
1998-01 CR-V
2000-02 Insight
1999-03 Odyssey
2003 Pilot
2000-03 S2000

CORRECTIVE ACTION
Test and, if necessary, replace the EVAP bypass solenoid valve. Replace the ECM/PCM if needed.

REPAIR PROCEDURE
1. Connect the PGM Tester to the 16P data link connector.

2. Turn the ignition switch to ON (II). Turn on the PGM Tester.

3. From the PROGRAM MENU screen, select HONDA SYSTEMS.

4. From the SYSTEM SELECT screen, select 1: PGM-FI.

5. From the TEST MODE MENU screen, select 6: INSPECTION.

6. From the INSPECTION MENU screen, select 2: EVAP TEST.

7. From the EVAP TEST MENU, select 1: SINGLE SOLENOIDS.

8. From the SINGLE SOLENOIDS MENU, activate the EVAP bypass solenoid valve. Listen for a click and feel for a light tap from the solenoid valve as you activate it.
^ If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, disregard this service bulletin, and look for other possible causes.
^ If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, go to step 9.
9. Replace the EVAP bypass solenoid valve (see section 11 of the appropriate service manual).

10. Test the new solenoid valve with the PGM Tester.
^ If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as appropriate.
^ If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, go to step 11.
11. Check the wire harness and the connectors for damage.
^ If you find any damage, repair it, then go to step 12.
^ If you find no damage in the wire harness or connectors, go to step 13.
12. Test the solenoid valve again with the PGM Tester.
^ If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as appropriate.
^ If you cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, go to step 13.
13. Replace the ECM/PCM (see section 11 of the appropriate service manual).

14. Use the PGM Tester to retest the solenoid valve.
^ If you can hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, go to step 15 or 16 as appropriate.
^ If you still cannot hear the solenoid valve click or feel it tap when activated, continue with normal troubleshooting.
15. Insight only: Disconnect the PGM Tester, and return the vehicle to your customer.

16. All other affected models: Use the PGM Tester to run the EVAP system function test (see S/B 02-007, EVAP System Function Testing and Diagnostics With the PGM Tester).
^ If the EVAP system passes the function test, disconnect the PGM Tester, and return the vehicle to your customer.
^ If the EVAP system fails the function test, continue with normal troubleshooting.


Honda Service Bulletin 01-011:
Attachment 20823
Attachment 20824

chartack 12-06-2009 09:29 AM

I agree about dropping the whole canister if the Vent Valve needs to be replaced. Do you think (when power is removed) the Vent Valve should immediately open to bleed the vaccum?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:36 PM.


© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands