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brandon0409 05-28-2012 03:07 PM

1995 is Burning oil. What could be problem
 
I have a 1995 Accord 4 cyl 2.2L.
When I got the car in January (from my brother) the oil had just been changed on Jan 11th 2012. When I got it at the end of the month the dipstick didn't even register that there was oil in the tank. But when I drained it, there was still a good amount, just not enough to see on the stick.

I didn't drive the car though as I was about to to do a lot of work on it (As you can read from my past posts), including a new oil pan gasket. While I had the oil pan off, I completely cleaned it out and put a new bolt and washer on the drain hole. I also replaced the Oil pressure sensor.

So that being said...
When I first turned the car on after it had been sitting for two months, there was a lot of burning-oil smoke coming from the front of the engine. But that stopped after about an hour. When I began driving the car at the end of March and all through April, I checked the oil every few days religiously and it wasn't losing any. But about 3 weeks ago I checked the oil and it was about 1.5qt low (possibly more). So I put a qt in. When I checked it today, it was probably 2 qts low.

Some observations:
The front of the engine block looks like there is dirty oil on it. But that was there before I began all of the work. I thought it was just from when the guy who changed the oil for my brother spilt some and it just accumulated there. But it doesn't seem to have gotten worse. it looks exactly the same.

There is no smoke coming from the exhaust. There is not smoke coming from the engine. I don't smell anything and there are no unusual noises.

UhOh 05-28-2012 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by brandon0409 (Post 283225)
all through April, I checked the oil every few days religiously and it wasn't losing any.
But about 3 weeks ago I checked the oil and it was about 1.5qt low (possibly more). So I put a qt in.
When I checked it today, it was probably 2 qts low.

Some observations:

There is no smoke coming from the exhaust.
There is not smoke coming from the engine.
I don't smell anything and there are no unusual noises.

and the drips from the pan, are they an all over the floor puddle? bet not.

shoot me, but sounds like you have a dipstick problem - not an oil burning problem.

TexasHonda 05-28-2012 04:43 PM

Only two ways for oil to be lost; either burned in the engine or leaks out.

Check cooling system to be sure oil is not leaking into cooling system.

Some frequent sources of oil leaks:
1) distributor primary seal (body to cylinder head)
2) distributor shaft seal (oil drains from distributor cap)
3) valve cover gasket and spark plug tube seals
4) rear balance shaft cover oring (drains from bottom of lower timing belt cover)
5) oil pressure switch (leaks through center of switch)

Ways to burn oil:
1) PCV valve or hose is blocked which forces oil into air intake (inside of air duct and throttle plate will show lots of oil and grime)
2) worn valve stem seals (car will smoke lightly after a prolonged idle and give off brief large burst of smoke after a long idle)
3) Worn or stuck oil control rings on pistons (engine should smoke heavily under hard acceleration).

good luck

brandon0409 05-29-2012 05:35 AM

No oil on the floor at all. It gets parked in the garage and it is clean.
The Oil Pressure switch in brand new.

Dipstick: When I refilled the oil after replacing the oil pan gasket, I checked it everyday for a solid month and it was perfectly full and clear as a bell. Then I stopped checking it so frequently because I thought that the problem seemed to be fixed.

I'll check to make sure the sensor didn't screw up and begin leaking oil. When I changed it out, the old one was covered. But I think I'm gonna take it to my honda car repair guy and get him to give it a once over.

Thanks

poorman212 05-29-2012 08:18 PM

As TX said.....check the poor old pcv. In my day, replacing them was part of a normal tune up.

brandon0409 05-30-2012 06:06 AM

On this car, where is the pcv?
I know where it is on my prelude but not quite sure about the accord.

Thanks

jerrym 05-30-2012 09:00 AM

on my 97 2.2 liter, the PCV valve is right on top the valve cover.

crispin 05-30-2012 09:39 AM

My old PCV valve, which looked fine to me and rattled when I shook it caused me to burn about 1 quart of oil every 1,000 miles.

even causing me once to drive down the highway for hours without any oil showing on the dipstick (I am lucky I did not damage the motor that day)

Since replacing the $5.00 PCV valve, not a drop of has been lost.

Like Jerry said, it is at the top of the valve cover, has a thick vacuum line going to it.

UhOh 05-30-2012 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by crispin (Post 283440)
My old PCV valve, which looked fine to me and rattled when I shook it caused me to burn about 1 quart of oil every 1,000 miles...

didn't that show up as oil smoke out the exhaust?

crispin 05-30-2012 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by UhOh (Post 283500)
didn't that show up as oil smoke out the exhaust?

Not that I ever noticed.

It was suggested that if I were to follow the car I most likely would have seen it.

But while driving I never saw even the tiniest bit of smoke.


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