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mango02 11-21-2008 09:31 AM

ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
ABS light resets when you turn car OFF. Fluid is good I can hear the pump run for about2 secounds and it cycles on and off every minute after start up. After about 10 minutes on road ABS light Aluminates like clock work and stays on until you turn the car off.

PAhonda 11-21-2008 11:01 AM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
Short the service connector with a piece of wire or a paper clip and count the ABS light flashing to find out what is causing it to come on.

Follow the instructions here:

http://www.dhost.info/accordinfo/howto/cel.html

Just count the ABS light and post it on here. The ABS stores codes as two parts: 1-2, 3-4, etc.. and is not like the check engine light (1, 2, 3, 4....).

mango02 11-22-2008 10:34 AM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
Hey thanks for the info will try when it warms up outside.SCARED of shorting out anything electrical. Thank You........

hondadude 11-22-2008 05:11 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 

ORIGINAL: mango02
Hey thanks for the info will try when it warms up outside.SCARED of shorting out anything electrical. Thank You........
Well I guess if you don't have the ability to jumper the service check connector;
it would be a waste of time to post the method for bleeding the ABS pump unit.

mango02 11-24-2008 10:39 AM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
1-3 on the ABS code. It did burst into flames as soon as I jumpered the plug. No just kidding it does have 226,000. miles and a lot work to keep it running.

JimBlake 11-24-2008 12:54 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
1-3= high-pressure leakage according to my list of ABS codes.

Look for evidence of actual fluid leakage around the ABS modulator. Then go from there.

It might be that the ABS fluid has got low, so needs to be re-filled & then bleed your ABS.

mango02 11-24-2008 01:24 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
Fluid is good first thing I checked ,no leaks looked real close no stains or drips. The fluid level goes down when the pump runs but as soon as it cuts off the level goes right back to full level. Fluid is clear and no trash in ABS tank. When the ABS light aluminates the pump no longer cycles on and off.

mango02 11-24-2008 01:25 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
My computer crashed so I have a hard time getting to forums.

JimBlake 11-24-2008 03:17 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
Fluid should not go down then back up. Itsounds like theres air in there. Try bleeding the ABS. Based on my former Integra, it should be about like this...

Bleed screw is probably near ABS fluid reservoir. Find a hose & a jar. Hose should fit good; if it pops off the pressure is high enough to be dangerous.

Run engine to pump up ABS. Shut off.

Crack open ABS bleed screw just barely, because the pressure is high.
As soon as it stops flowing, shut it again.

Run engine to pump ABS back up. Shut off engine. Refill reservoir.

Repeat until you dont get any more air bubbles from the bleed screw.

hondadude 11-24-2008 08:22 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
I agree that bleeding out the system is the best choice.

Consider that the mental midget moron designer placed the Check Valve at the lowest place of the valve body....you know down where all the water and sediment collect?

You can't buy the $5 check valve assy either.

FWIW. Be sure to clean up any spilled brake fluid with spray brake cleaner, itwill eat paint.

JimBlake 11-25-2008 10:36 AM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 

ORIGINAL: JimBlake

Fluid should not go down then back up. Itsounds like theres air in there...
So maybe that behavior is caused by a bad check valve? Not necessarily caused byair in the ABS?

I suppose if bleeding fixes everything, then you can celebrate your success. Either way, post back & tell us what happens.

TexasHonda 11-25-2008 11:38 AM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
The internal valves are not repairable. I tried disassembly and it must require some special tools. Not a complicated beast, but not designed for diy'r to poke around and fix.

You can buy used ABS modulators for ~$50. Try car-part.com to run one down near your zip code. Make sure to get a garuntee for a working part as parts yard won't know since they merely strip the unit from a junked car. I've done this and had to buy a 2nd modulator to get a good one. Still spent only about $125 total.

good luck

mango02 11-25-2008 05:33 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
I got my computer up YEAH!!! The pump cycles and the level goes up and down with the pump. Will bleed but Bleed Port points STRAIGHT UP you do not want to miss or you will get in the EYE!

JimBlake 11-26-2008 08:49 AM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 

ORIGINAL: mango02

...Bleed Port points STRAIGHT UP you do not want to miss or you will get in the EYE!
Hence my warning about high pressure & barely opening the bleeder. Ive been told that if you open too far, the pressure is high enough to cut thru your skin.

mango02 01-03-2009 03:14 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
I bled the ABS module several times no AIR in system. Light would aluminate like always. Now the pump runs none stop at start up until the ABS light aluminates and pump turns off about 20 secounds. The code I get now just ONE blink then you wait about 5 secounds and you get another blink it does that 3 times. Blink wait 5 secounds, blink wait 5 secounds and blink wait 5 secounds. What should I replace first?????

TexasHonda 01-03-2009 03:53 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
You have fault code 1.

There are 8 possibile faults listed in the shop manual. I suggest downloading the 94-97 Accord Manual from Online Manuals links in DIY section for details. Circuit diagram will help any repairs. Many are not repairable faults. Here is summary:

* Pressure Switch (P-SW) Stuck On (not repairable)
* Open between P-SW and ABS Control Unit (unlikely but repairable)
* Open in P-SW circuit between the P-SW and body ground or poor ground (repairable)
* Drop in Pump Discharge Volume (failing pump not repairable)
* Leaking outlet valve (internal leak not repairable)
* Leaking relief valve (internal leak not repairable)
* ABS brake fluid leakage
* Faulty ABS control unit

Used modulator is probably easiest repair, unless it a wiring faultis found.

good luck

mango02 01-04-2009 03:21 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
Ok will try to find a Modulator it should be a complete unit, remove and replace wow that sounds soooo easy. This might turn into a head ache corrosion on lines. One big QUESTION can you remove the unit and cap all the lines and operate the car?

TexasHonda 01-04-2009 06:43 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
You can disable by simply pulling ABS fuse. The ABS controller will set the ABS light. A simple effective fix is to pull the ABS light bulb or cover w/ black electrical tape. Don't laugh, my Dad did this and I didn't notice until he pointed it out.

good luck

mango02 01-05-2009 07:01 PM

RE: ABS Light ?????? 94 EX ACCORD
 
ABS lightCODE out on your emission inspection? I know it's not CEL. The steel lines are all coroded not sure if it's worth the pain of ripping up all the tubbing trying to change the modulator. Willpull the ABS fuse the pump makes a racket when you start up.


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