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Rogersstorm Jul 11, 2012 01:18 PM

Engine change
 
Blew my engine F22b2 1997 Honda Accord Auto
Got a F22b2 engine looked the same. was a 5 speed from a 94 Honda Accord.
Put my auto on it and transferred all the parts off the old engine except when I got to the Crank sensor there was no place for them on the front of the engine.
So I assume it must have a diffrent engine wiring harness and diffrent distributor.
What do I neet to make this engine run. in my 1997 Honda Accord LX ?
Thanks for any help.
Buck

JimBlake Jul 11, 2012 04:28 PM

The "front of the engine" is the oil pump. One way is to take the oilpump from your blown 97 engine and install that onto the 94 engine. That will be a good opportunity to get a new front-main seal. You'll also need the crankshaft sprockets for the timing belts, because they include the pulser ring for those sensors. Then use the distributor from the 97 engine. (You'll use your 1997 engine controller.) There might be slight differences in the lower timing cover, to accomodate the sensor wiring.

In 1994 (OBD-1) the spark & fuel timing is controlled by 3 sensors inside the distributor (CKP, CMP, & TDC). With OBD-2 (1996+) the CKP & TDC sensors are moved down to the crankshaft.

Rogersstorm Jul 11, 2012 10:09 PM

Engine change F22b2
 
Whow! this getting more complicated than I thought. I had already switched everthing over and installed the F22b2 and discovered the Sensor problem .on the front of the engine.
I suppose this means removing the engine again and doing what you suggested of removing the oil pump (front part of the engine.)

Would a 94 F22b2 engine harness and a 94 distributor make it work??
I am new at this . On Hondas. This is the first Honda I ever had.

I have worked on lots of GM's but never a honda and at 80 I am a lot slower than I used to be.
Thanks. Buck

PAhonda Jul 11, 2012 10:19 PM

You should be able to remove the oil pump with the engine installed.

You will have to remove the crank pulley. Removing that crank bolt can be a major pain. Do you have an impact wrench.

You are essentially doing a timing belt job on this car with a few extra steps.

Did you install a new timing belt already?

Rogersstorm Jul 12, 2012 11:04 AM

Engine Change
 
Ok I think I can handle it now if I do not have to remove the engine. I looked at the old engine and saw what you are talking about.
I already have the crank pully off. Have not removed the Timing belts yet.
Broke a 1/2 inch extension in half trying to remove the Harmonic balancer.
Bought an impact extension and got it off. Sounded like a gun shot when it let go.
Thanks for all the good information. Much appreciated.
I will make sure I get the engine at TDC before I remove the belts.
Have a good day.
Buck

JimBlake Jul 12, 2012 02:03 PM

I've heard horror stories about that pulley bolt. Get a long pipe to extend your breaker bar, lean on it with all your weight; then do a face-plant on the garage floor when it suddenly lets go... ;)

OK put it at TDC before taking the belts off, but also look at the timing marks so you understand them before taking off the belts. There's an arrow cast into the camshaft sprocket - that has to be pointing generally upwards. But the REAL marks are 2 little dimples out at the teeth. They line up with the top of the head, or the top edge of the back timing cover (plastic between the head & the sprocket). That's not necessarily horizontal with the ground.


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