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RogerB34 05-18-2007 12:03 PM

VTEC Operation
 
Accord 05V6 J30A-4
I am interested in the sequence of VTEC operations when the intake valves switch to high duration and lift.
Is oil pressure is applied through the Primary rocker arm and timing pistonto drive Synchronizing pistons A and B to lock the Primary and Secondary rocker arms to the Mid rocker arm?
Is the timing spring located in the Secondary rocker arm to drive the Synchronizing pistons back into normal position afteroil pressure release?
If not, what is the sequence?

sir_nasty 05-18-2007 01:29 PM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
Hopefully this helps since I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head....


http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kb.php?aid=212

Velocifero 05-18-2007 05:16 PM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm

MacLeod 05-18-2007 05:39 PM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
A little off topic but my Accord has a slight sputter at 2200 RPMs when accelerating. I assume its the VTEC as thats the approximate RPM range that it kicks in. Is it normal to have this little hesitation?

sir_nasty 05-18-2007 05:46 PM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
I'm not very familiar with the 2007's but the v-tec on almost all honda's doesn't kick in until about 4,000-4,500 RPM's....

RogerB34 05-18-2007 07:35 PM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
The Q wasn't about output of VTEC.
Nor about when it activates.
Specifics of the sequence of events.

MacLeod 05-19-2007 11:08 AM

RE: VTEC Operation
 

ORIGINAL: sir_nasty

I'm not very familiar with the 2007's but the v-tec on almost all honda's doesn't kick in until about 4,000-4,500 RPM's....
I may not be talking about the right thing then. It it my understanding that on the new iVTEC engines, the engine runs on 3 valves per cylinder under 2200 RPM's and above that, it opens all 4.


RogerB34 05-19-2007 11:20 AM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
Here's my explanation based on available net information:

"A synchronizing piston connects/disconnects the three intake rocker arms. Hydraulic pressure against a timing piston moves the synchronizing piston A and B one direction, while a stopper piston and return spring moves the synchronizing piston back when hydraulic pressure is reduced."
Stopper piston is the same as Haynes description of Timing piston. The Timing Spring is behind theTiming piston.
Looking at the front cyl bank, the Primary intake valve and rocker arm is on the right side of the three rocker arms.
The Secondary intake valve and rocker arm is on the left side. It contains the Timing piston and Springto powerthe piston return to normal operation.
The Mid rocker arm is about one third again as large as either P or S.
In addition the system contains a Spool Valve and a Lost Motion Assembly.
The Spool Valve is an accumulator of oil pressure and volume for the hydraulic actuating sequence. Triggered by a solenoid likely timed off of the Camshaft Position Sensor.
The Lost Motion Assembly loads the Mid rocker arm toprecisely line up the three intake rocker arm bores.
Just before or during the beginning of the Compression stroke, intake valves closed, if PCM parameters are met for high output, the oil pump loads the Spool Valve, the Lost Motion Assy is activated and the Spool Valve solenoid is activated forcing oil through the Pivot Shaft into the Primary rocker arm driving the Synchronizing pins to lock P and S rocker arms to the Mid rocker arm.
Whendemand is normal, oil pressure is cut off, and the Timing piston is driven by the Timing Spring toreturn the Synchronising pistons to their normal position.
Must beprecise and reliable or rocker arms and pistons will contact.
I'm assuming the sequence is by cylinder.
It is also possible that the Secondary rocker arm is the oil pressure port to the sequence.
If anyone has seen the rocker arms disassembled, the Spring location would verify the rocker arm. Also the rocker assembly porting oil to the pistons would have a groove and the Pivot shaft holes to match.

03Sleeper 05-19-2007 07:05 PM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
@MacLeod

I'll try to figure this out next time I take the car for a spin. Then again, I have AT so I dunno if that'll be much help to you. And I think the fourth valve kicks in around 2700-3000 RPM. When I floor it, it's normal accerlation up to around that range then the RPM meter goes off to around 5000+ RPM easy.

hondadude 05-20-2007 03:11 PM

RE: VTEC Operation
 
duh



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