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status 02-04-2009 06:48 PM

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hey guys i just bought a new 12' jl sub 600w its ported and sloted?
my question is i have my amp screwed into my other sub and its sealed can i screw the amp on this one or will it damage the sound?
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finch13 02-04-2009 06:49 PM

Won't damage the sound

status 02-04-2009 06:51 PM

thanks for being fast finchy, also my amp is 1000w subs 600 any damage?

t00fatt 02-04-2009 06:54 PM

No that will be fine, wouldn't hurt to put a little silicon on the screw as it goes in to guarantee a nice seal. Be sure to predrill before driving the screw in or the wood will crack. That W1 will give you much better sound then the audiobahn you had. I'm thinking about getting a 10" W1 to replace a blown JBL home audio sub I have.

t00fatt 02-04-2009 06:55 PM

What brand and model amp? Chances are it's not really a 1000w block. That w1 can handle a bit extra power, but noting too crazy. If your going to overpower it, it really should be in a sealed box. The max power it can take goes down in a ported box, as it can bottom out with the extra power.

status 02-04-2009 06:57 PM

its a crappy sony xplod.

status 02-04-2009 07:01 PM

actually i dont even know how many amps the sub is... toofatt your said its a w1 which will make it 300 watts.

t00fatt 02-04-2009 07:03 PM

Lol you'll be fine, I would be surprised if it put out 750w cleanly. You can find out for yourself what your amp is really putting out, it is really simple just need a mutli-tester. A sealed would be the safe way to go, you may damage the driver in a ported with that excess power, but I don't think that extra power will burn up the coil.

MacLeod 02-04-2009 07:08 PM

Make sure you DO NOT set the gain any higher than the "noon" position or half way. That amp is big enough to fry that sub if youre not careful. Just set the gains properly and use common sense with the volume knob and you should be fine.

status 02-04-2009 07:10 PM

think i might run down to circuit city and go buy a new amp 300 watts.

finch13 02-04-2009 07:13 PM

do your research first

t00fatt 02-04-2009 07:14 PM

Oh wait a second a W1 is only rated for 300w. That sony amp will burn and bust that W1. A 300w amp would be very nice with the sub. The sub can handle a bit more, but you will be pushing it. With 300w you will have a long lasting nice sounding sub. That sub isn't going to be super loud, but will add a nice fill.

EDIT: I would order it online, there is not much choice at those stores, nor do they care aany real quality equipment. They also rip you off. Kicker and JL are my favorite amps, but they come with a price. I've never had a kicker amp fail on me, and I've had a few.

status 02-04-2009 08:57 PM

i got it from a friend for 25 bucks, only bad is that stupid metal gaurd is on, tried to give him my 15' he said he didnt want it, 300w is fine for me less weight for sure and wont sound bad. my friend was using a kicker im gonna try and get it from him also i have a 250w alpine amp not sure if i should use that,

t00fatt 02-05-2009 12:54 AM

You can run that 250w amp if you want. That W1 is really only going to give you a nice fill. I'm not sure what your looking for, if you want big bass than you need to look else where.

status 02-05-2009 04:39 AM

no, i had that 15' 2000w audiobahn, just thought id downgrade its about 75lbs lighter, and when he had it in his bmw sounded decent. so i'm not to worried.

status 02-05-2009 04:40 AM

he said he has a 300w rockfordfosgate i can have i just get to find it in his shop... but its free.

t00fatt 02-05-2009 11:09 AM

If it's an RF amp, the older the better. Their new stuff isn't what is used to be since they got bought out a while back.

MacLeod 02-05-2009 06:14 PM

Im gonna have to disagree with ya on that one partner. Granted the old school RF amps were stable down to 1/4 ohm and never tore up but the new line is still very stout. They make WAY more than their ratings suggest so you get a lot more power than youre paying for - theyre still built very well too. Not as bulletproof as your standard MTX hoss but theyre still an excellent choice.

The only downside to RF amps is that everybody and their brother seems to have one. I like using gear you dont see that often.

t00fatt 02-05-2009 06:28 PM

I don't have any personal experience with RF amps, but that is what I was told by an older guy that has always seemed to know what he is talking about. But you know how older guys like to express their opinions as facts, thanks for clearing that up.

MacLeod 02-05-2009 07:44 PM

Ah its understandable. RF used to be only in the best shops and ran by only the serious guys. Now its as mainstream as Britney Spears and usually when anything is for sale in a Best Buy or Circuit City, its automatically crap.

MTX for instance make some of the finest amps on the planet but dont get anywhere near the respect they deserve because theyve always been known as a "Circuit City" brand.

status 02-05-2009 10:14 PM

does the positive go to B+ and the neg to gnd?

status 02-05-2009 10:19 PM

and its rockfordfosgate p3002. so 2004ish hope it works

t00fatt 02-05-2009 10:35 PM

Yep you've got it right.

status 02-05-2009 11:43 PM

wow all set, id say it hits the same after tuning need to tune a wee bit more but it sounds so much cleaner and hits better, the stupid amp lights up and goes to the beat. lol i should line it up to the opening in the back seat.

t00fatt 02-06-2009 06:25 PM

Oh and that amp can only handle 4 ohms, so if that sub you got is 2 ohms your going to burn the amp up. It might say it on the sub if you take it out, but the best way is to check it with a multimeter. Set it to ohms and make sure you get good contact on the terminals and it should be at least 3.5ohms. Vibrations will make the number fluctuate so keep it still.

status 02-07-2009 12:19 AM

no clue how to do that

status 02-07-2009 12:21 AM

if i read the specs right for the amp is either 4 or 8 ohms depending on the number.

t00fatt 02-07-2009 12:59 AM

Ahh your right W1s only come in 8ohms and 4ohms, so your fine lol.

EDIT: I actually had no idea they still made 8 ohm car audio subs lol

status 02-07-2009 01:06 AM

that good or bad? also toofatt for your head unit do you have the double din or the other one that moves all the air controls around?

t00fatt 02-07-2009 01:12 AM

There is no double DIN for the 7th gen without custom work. I do have the kit that replaces the A/C controls.

The lower resistance is more efficient I believe. I'm not 100% if it is efficiency but it is louder. The lower resistance can burn up an amp though. In the past amps could only handle higher loads.

status 02-07-2009 01:17 AM

im pretty sure they have the double din that goes in the lower middle cubby

t00fatt 02-07-2009 01:21 AM

If they do I've never seen or heard of it. Wouldn't be a great spot for a double DIN. I prefer a flip out anyways. I feel that when they are put away with dark tints, it's not as obvious as double DIN. And that extra half inch is always nice.

status 02-07-2009 01:23 AM

no i agree, i was just curious what you were rockin, gettin that done is on the list. dunno if ill like they changed controls.

t00fatt 02-07-2009 01:26 AM

The screen will cover about half of both knobs, but it's really not a big deal. It could be better but when there is no other option I see no gain in complaining.


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