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keep_hope_alive 04-04-2010 08:55 AM

Putting speakers in the kicks of a 2001 EX
 
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The process:
  • disassemble all interior trim panels and remove carpet to expose kick panel metal.
  • plan on relocating anything currently located there - i.e. computers and hood release
  • find any cavities in the kick area - in my case there was a cavity in the floor and one on the lower apillar (side)
  • cut away metal that is not structurally important
  • deaden the hell out of the area
  • build baffles - i used painted MDF with t-nuts
  • secure baffles - i used liquid nails construction adhesive and silicone
  • modify factory trim panels and carpeting to accept new drivers





driver
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exposed
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cutting
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deadening
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vented
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baffles
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grills (updated with Oz grills- not pictured)
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carpeted (need to replace/cover factory carpet)
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keep_hope_alive 04-04-2010 08:55 AM

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passenger
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exposed (computer brain to be relocated)
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cut and deadened
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vented
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baffles glued and secured (computer relocation visible)

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grills
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grills updated
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carpeted
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keep_hope_alive 04-04-2010 09:00 AM

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test fitting process

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midrange baffle creation

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designed for flexibility with midrange selection. i made the rear piece to secure to the car with three t-nuts for mounting the outer baffle. the outer baffle is removable so i can try different midrange drivers that don't align with the Oz mounting locations. the midbass baffle is fixed.

keep_hope_alive 04-04-2010 09:09 AM

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testing speaker locations
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computer relocated
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retention of factory firewall barrier.
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speaker wire disconnects protected with heat shrink.
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speaker protected from fiberglass with grill cloth
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i've been experimenting with different fill types (fiberglass, polyfill, etc.) and different amounts. the fiberglass is no longer in there.


these are the drivers in the kicks:
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system diagram
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_i...0221_large.jpg

t00fatt 04-04-2010 11:38 AM

Awesome work, do you do this professionally or is this just a hobby?

keep_hope_alive 04-04-2010 12:57 PM

hobby, of sorts. professionally, i'm an Acoustics Engineer. i've sold home/car audio b4, and installed home audio professionally. but car audio has been a hobby for 15 years, and i perform my own work. i will do installations for others, and my rates are very reasonable. i'll consult on installations, help purchase equipment (usually from a local shop but sometimes online), install and tune, and teach how to use it.

this is my everyday car, most of this work was performed between 11pm-3am, after the wife and kids go to bed, with enough time to sleep b4 i go to work at 8am.

i posted this so others with a 6th gen can see the potential.

my next task is to recover the factory carpet so i have a seamless look. i don't like that you can see the difference in carpet. and i don't like the stains.

keep_hope_alive 04-04-2010 01:03 PM

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the coolest part is that after all of that stuff down there, i lost ZERO space in my kicks. everything is flush with factory carpet and factory panels.

and the sound stage is amazing.

tweeter installation:


extending tweeter wires - solder and heat shrink

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tweeter prep
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wire terminals - a molex plug is planned for future
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pvc with modeling clay for shape
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covered with black fleece - black so they are not visible from outside and so it matches the tweeters. i may recover most of the car black to set off the silver trim.
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finished look
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inphinit 04-27-2010 08:05 PM

That is god tier

keep_hope_alive 04-27-2010 11:50 PM

thanks?
 

Originally Posted by inphinit (Post 202287)
That is god tier

i haven't heard that expression before. i assume it's a complement? :)

WheelBrokerAng 04-28-2010 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by keep_hope_alive (Post 202314)
i haven't heard that expression before. i assume it's a complement? :)


Lets hope it was something good he said...:D

Super nice shots and info my Stereo Manager...:D

WheelBrokerAng

inphinit 04-28-2010 09:48 PM

Haha yes, it was a compliment.

keep_hope_alive 04-28-2010 10:40 PM

lol. thanks!

vengeance 05-04-2010 10:09 PM

first of all damn good custom work! Question what did you use on the pillars for your tweeters?

keep_hope_alive 05-04-2010 10:49 PM

thanks, i am looking forward to fiberglassing some covers and trim - just to finish it out. but that will be after i get the 125Hz resonance dealt with. i looked at A LOT of different fabric. unfortunately, the selection for dark gray sucks, and black achieved my goal of making them invisible from outside the car. I used a type of fleece. i wanted something soft and thick - to absorb some of the opposite tweeter as well as the wave expansion from each tweeter. i used fleece because I may opt to resin and fill them one day, but probably not due to the absorptive qualities.

keep_hope_alive 06-08-2010 07:34 AM

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updated images from a recent project with more deadener Raammat BXT II
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keep_hope_alive 03-19-2011 11:36 AM

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some recent work to experiment with speaker locations and soundstage width.

i have my midbass in the door now so my 6.5" holes in the floor were empty... until now. I made a ring to mount some mids in that location. I recess mounted them so i had both protection and off-axis control
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both mids can be played, and since they are mostly in the same location, the soundstage differences should be based on speaker orientation.
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same for the driver's side
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yea, i still have the carpet over the drivers - this is how it looks after another winter.
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New carpeting is still planned. not sure what i'll do yet, may just cover the factory carpet with new carpet. may make my own out of MLV, carpet, and foams.

nickmiller 05-01-2011 08:47 AM

why did you carpet the speakers?

keep_hope_alive 05-01-2011 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by nickmiller (Post 239199)
why did you carpet the speakers?

The carpet is non-backed, so it doesn't impede sound. It protects the speakers from dirt and grime from feet. Soon I will recarpet the floor and you won't see any transition or difference.


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