1000 HP K24 Accord
 

ok guys... i have 2 and a half years to build this monster... now i know in that time new technology will come out... and so on...

This car is getting built for a bet... a bunch of my freinds and i are going to san banita and have a drag race... so i need to bring a 8 second car...
The car has to have the ORIGINAL engine... and original block... (any K24 block will do though so a K24A2 is going in)

Head
A VTEC head (JDM Integra)
Skunk 2 +1 over stock Valves Springs and titanium retainers...
Skunk 2 VTEC turbo Race Cams
Radical Port and Polish

Block
K20 Oil System
Darton Sleeves
BC 2.6L Stroker Kit
Knife Edged Crank
balanced and lightened pistons and rods
KMS pistons
7.5:1 - 8:1 compression
8lb flywheel

Intake
Turbo Manifold fully ported and port matched
Integra Type-R TB bored our and polished (butterfly thinned out)
fully pollished 2.5 inch charge piping...
inter cooler undetermined HKS or Greddy
NOS Inter-Cooler Spray Bar Kit

Exhaust
Turbo back 3 inch exhaust
Custom side mount equal lenght turbo manifold (non log :) )

Turbo
t88 - 30-40 PSI (depends on if i use nitrous)

Nitrous
125 Shot of N20 threw a progressive DPI system (brand unknown as of yet)

ECU
AEM Engine Managment System

I also plan to turn 10K RPMs

so what do yall think just pure engine... what else to do what else to add?

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

Holy crap. 30-40 psi. Thats insane boost. This is going to be in what car? I think if you make this happen, I want a ride in it lol.

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

the real question is, how will you get all that power to stick to the pavement.

but it sounds like a kick ass car, sign me up for a ride as well.

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

well its going to run threw the 6 speed manual from a JDM ITR thats cryoed and built then to a stage 5 ACT clutch... then stage 5 drive shafts from the drive shaft shop ... then thats going to hit some 12 inch drag slicks... but my secret wepon will be... *laughs manicly* AIR RIDE! im going to have some sort of computer controled drag system... when i launch my ass end will be as high in the air as possible.... and my front will be slamed... thus when the car launches... the weight will balance... and the computer will adjust and once i have good traction and so on i will even out and take the course at normal (or slightly lowered) ride height

and it will be in a 03 accord 4 door :)

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

if only i had that much money lol

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yeh well im going to be broke doing this :) so i hope to get sponsored on it... (because well just the block is going to take over 10 grand...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

If you're serious you might want to rethink some of your setup. Pushing 1000hp worth of air through 2.5" intercooler piping isn't going to be easy. Same thing for 1000hp worth of exhaust through 3" pipe. And isn't a t88 a big turbo for an engine twice the size of yours? :)

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

Dear Lord, I want a ride too! Or just get a 426 Hemi and build that up! hehe

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

the whole bet is V8 Vs I-4

and the piping is that big to keep pressure up... the exhaust will be nearly strait threw...

and the T88 is built for a Supra mainly... remember 10+k RPM...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

HOLY CRAP!! goodluck sounds like a sweet ride.

in my books I-4 > v8

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

if this thing is FWD, i seriously doubt you are going to get 8 seconds out of it.....

i seriously doubt that that block will handle 1000hp ......

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

dont hate...

the block doesent have to deal with much... its all on the sleeves... the bottom end will be rock solid so im not going to throw anything...

and 8 seconds out of a FWD isent that hard... a 300 HP FWD runs high 9s

the suspension is all that matters... and thats were the air comes in...

stop being so pecimistic

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

I don't know if you'd want to throw that much money into an accord engine. You could buy another car and build it into a monster with the kindof money you'd need. If you really want to do it I wish you luck but, it's going to be very hard. Keep in mind that the 260whp STIs run low/mid 13s and those are all wheel drive cars. Then my buddies rwd 330 hp V8 only runs high 12s.

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

pay close attention to your gear ratio's.... that's going to play a big part as well. Search the forum or go online and find a drag calculator or Horsepower calculator and a good one will give you gear ratio's... I know that it's do-able I just don't know the specifics of what you'll need (size wise).... Pay close attention to your rims and hubs so nothing snaps there, chain the engine to the frame.... does the outside of the car have to be 100% stock? if not then use an Idea I saw elsewhere and make the mirrors fold back for less drag... that way they are functional but also drop down for racing.... Carbon fiber/fiberglass is your friend!

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yeah, 10k rpms is going to be the only way to run 40+psi only problem is if you stroke it and run 10k rpms your going to hit that little unhappy point where the car cant safely maintain the rpm's for the stroke its at, depending on how much you stroke it of course

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I'm gonna have to agree with the charge piping and exhaust size choices...
you say you want to keep the pressure up? you realize that pressure = heat...right?
try to find some flow calculators...but I do believe you'll need some 3"+ charge piping, a BAD ASS intercooler and probably 3.5"+ turbo back exhaust.

its gonna need to flow LOTS of air!

what is allowed in the bet as far as making the car lighter? thats gonna be a good thing too... if you can drop enough weight, you could probably get away with 800 whp :p

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

only CF is hood must have 2 seats... must be street legal... must run on DOT drag radials smaller than 15 inches...

this is for the fastest uniboy accord in the world basicly


and the reason i can turn 10k with the stroker becayse i could make a non stroked hit 13k easy...
remember everything is taken down to its minimum ultra light weight...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

You should do a simple calculation of balance of forces and moments.

1) How high off the ground is the vehicle center of gravity? (Including all your extra equipment)
2) What's the wheelbase? (I know I can look that up in specs...)
3) Using 1 & 2, what acceleration will cause the front wheels to lift? Just a reality check to find out if you're finished before you start...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

here's some HP calculators to mess with..... this should give you a slightly more accurate idea of what you need....

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/m_12057/tm.htm

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

well im not sure of my tire diameter ... but its looking like im going to have to hit 2000 pounds and 1000 HP and that will hit 7.99

and trust me the wheels wont be lifting...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

I can't see a 2000 pound car having a chance at hooking up with 1000hp. No matter how big the tires are, there still has to be enough force downwards to get any grip (weight). I also can't really see an accord getting as light as 2000pounds, nor 1000 horsepower. It might be possible but no where near cost efficient. If money isn't an issue, you can sure go for it, I don't want to be a buzz kill, but you'd be much better off working with a bigger motor. Try getting a V8, build the motor, and put twin turbos on it. Even with that, you'll have to do some serious weight savings to break 8 seconds. I just don't think you realize how fast an 8 second car is...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

I dont know where the whole must be street legal thing is coming from, I wouldnt mind seeing a car thats 1000hp and street legal....

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I dont know if everyone reads the import mags like Super Street, Modified, Sport Compact Car, etc, but in the January issue of Import Tuner there is a 1994 Civic Si hatchback. This car is street legal, dynoed at 790whp and 531lb-ft of torque out of a turbo B18C1 bored out to 2.0L. The Civic is half stripped on the interior, weighs 2500lbs with driver, and ran its best 1/4 mile in 9.96 seconds at 149mph. Also, he uses M&H Racemaster drag slicks on the track.

The cat who owns this car, Paul Ho, is also the head of R&D at Injen Technology, so I would imagine he makes a fair amount of money.

I dont know if its really feasible to make a stock bodied Accord run in the 8s. I will be incredibly impressed if you can do it, I just dont know if you can get it light enough and get it to grip with the parameters you have placed upon you.

By the way, what car are you racing against, and does it have the same restrictions?

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

its just part of the bet... there v-8s will be street legal... so my honda has to be streetable 2...

it wont be running 30+ psi on the street 10 max on the street

and yes a honda can push 1K specialy a Kseries a B series can do 800... highest k so far is 700ish...

the air ride will be why the car can hook up... the entire car will lean forward thus all the weight will be on the front at launch... when i take off i wont be pushing but maby 600 HP because i wont be building 30-40 PSI... its all in how the boost map is... yeh if i somehow built a 1000 HP All motor... the launch would be impossible.... remember hondas are high end... not low end... we launch weak and make up time past the 1/8th

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

Im not saying you CANT get 1000hp, Im saying its going to be really difficult and cost probably what I make in 2 years. Plus that Civic only ran 9.96 with almost 800whp, and it only weighed 2500. How can you get an Accord anywhere near that light if you cant use carbon fiber except for the hood?

I understand that you arent driving with 30psi on the street. I also know that Hondas are top end power. Im just saying, you are pretty much forging into new territory with this engine, its going to be a sh*t ton of work, lots of trial and error and breakage, and even if you can make 1000hp, I dont know if you will see 8 seconds in an Accord. Its an admirable goal though, and I do wish you the best of luck.

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

http://www.modacar.com/car/Honda/Accord/

689hp 2d accord thats at the top end of the 10's Personally I dont think you will get a 2000lb accord thats not the HE, but that thing is essentially a civic, and why a CF hood? why not have a Fiberglass hood? now that will reduce weight. And theres still the fact when you get to the 1000hp point you will still break free regardless of how wide of racing slicks you are using. No one will argue with you about the ability to get the horsepower, but people will agrue about how easy it will be to get 8's.

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

the 2003 4 door accord is 2800 pounds (weighed on a scale at the local strip)

it will be done!!!

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

sooooooo, youre cutting off the top half of the car..... gotcha ^_^

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

its going to be gutted and gunna even take sub frame out (useless unibody peices that wont be usefull after the cage is installed

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

I think it's possible to get it that light, I've scraped out some stock cars and gotten them pretty light... I believe if you remove EVERYTHING except the door skins (weld them shut) and the interior, then put in the roll cage it will still be street legal, check your local laws but I'm thinking you can get the car down to 2000 lbs (minus driver), and I hope you're going to use a fuel cell instead of a gas tank, remove your glass and weld solid bumper liners (there's a LOT of weight there....), As far as 8 second 1/4 times I have no idea.... I'm a corner type of guy.. but Hey I'm dying to hear about it and see pictures as you go along... what's your timetable like to finish this?

Also I just ran some numbers through that calculator, 2600 lbs, 1000 HP, 1.4 Gear ratio you should be able to hit Mid 8's at 170 MPH accross the line... so if you can get it to stick it is possible

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

This is a high 8 second street legal car.. [sm=Awwww.gif]

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...920171932b.htm

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

You should go read some 1200HP viper reviews. Those cars have an extremely hard time breaking 9 seconds simply because it's damn near impossible to get hooked up. launch at anything above idle and it is tire spin........

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heh, yeah, and isnt the viper a 3000+ lb car? you know that has trouble keeping contact and why would a 2000lb one make better contact

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

At least the Accord will have the weight of the engine over the drive wheels. Thats about the only thing that might help.

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

yall do know that there are plently of FWDs in the 7s... they are pro modifieds... (fiberglass) and all extreamely light weight.... 1500ish pounds...remember skunk 2 has a 300 HP all motor K24A2 RSX that runs 9s

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

yes we are aware of that but even you have to be aware of the difficulties of getting 1000+ hooked up in a car that is twice as heavy with 3.33...x the power right?

it is indeed possible to get 300hp to move 1500lbs at those speeds but what happens with 2800lbs and 1000hp? There is a delicate balance betwen HP weight traction and resulting times..........

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

like i said theres 1000ish hp drag FWD cars that hit LOW 7s (7.15) and again i say i wont be launching with 1000 HP we must all remember the flaw of forced induction.... its not all there when ya get off the line...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

I still say that it is possible.... but I'm also curious about how long you have to do this and what kind of money do you think it's going to cost?

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

well as its going to be the FASTEST honda accord ever... i hope i get sponsored... if not the parts will probably be 20k or more... we have till july 2009... it has to be streetable and registered in our home state...

RE: 1000 HP K24 Accord
 

I assume that you've already applied/asked some companies to sponsor you? Have you started any of the work on the car yet? I'm guessing that without a sponsor you'd have to start putting $650.00/month aside to reach 20k by that time... If you can at least get some work started on the car I'm sure that finding sponsors will be much easier....