This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
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This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
[sm=WTFsgign.gif]I've never seen a more clear cut case of false advertising!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gas-F...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gas-F...QQcmdZViewItem
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RE: This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
It seems to be the opposite of a performance chip .... 1 point though, our engines run a bit rich so they run cooler. true stochiometric levels will fry your exhaust manifold, kill your cat and offgas a ton of NOx.
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RE: This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
70 hp and 20mpg, thats a joke, if anyone buys that they are an idiot.
i love how they list faster acceleration and 0-60, i would hope a 70hp increase would make it accelerate faster
i love how they list faster acceleration and 0-60, i would hope a 70hp increase would make it accelerate faster
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RE: This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
ORIGINAL: Aquariumjunkie
I've never seen a more clear cut case of false advertising!
I've never seen a more clear cut case of false advertising!
ORIGINAL: falkore24
1 point though, our engines run a bit rich so they run cooler. true stochiometric levels will fry your exhaust manifold, kill your cat and offgas a ton of NOx.
1 point though, our engines run a bit rich so they run cooler. true stochiometric levels will fry your exhaust manifold, kill your cat and offgas a ton of NOx.
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RE: This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
Advanced IC engine design class. Due to the coolant in the block, the cylinder walls will always be cooler than the center of the combustion chamber causing fuel to condense on the cylinder walls. If the setpoint is a true stochiometric mixture, the effective burning mixture will be lean and will cause all of the issues that a lean mixture causes.
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ORIGINAL: falkore24
Advanced IC engine design class. Due to the coolant in the block, the cylinder walls will always be cooler than the center of the combustion chamber causing fuel to condense on the cylinder walls. If the setpoint is a true stochiometric mixture, the effective burning mixture will be lean and will cause all of the issues that a lean mixture causes.
Advanced IC engine design class. Due to the coolant in the block, the cylinder walls will always be cooler than the center of the combustion chamber causing fuel to condense on the cylinder walls. If the setpoint is a true stochiometric mixture, the effective burning mixture will be lean and will cause all of the issues that a lean mixture causes.
Honda ecus rapidly cycle the the a/f ratio from slightly rich to slightly lean to control emmisions. They dont run rich during normal idle and cruise conditions.
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RE: This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...2BSI%26otn%3D4
This looks more promising anyways!
This looks more promising anyways!
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RE: This kind of $h1t PISSES ME OFF!!!!
ORIGINAL: Chiovnidca
The only time fuel condeses on the cylinder walls is when the engine is cold. It doesn't happen when they are warm.
Honda ecus rapidly cycle the the a/f ratio from slightly rich to slightly lean to control emmisions. They dont run rich during normal idle and cruise conditions.
ORIGINAL: falkore24
Advanced IC engine design class. Due to the coolant in the block, the cylinder walls will always be cooler than the center of the combustion chamber causing fuel to condense on the cylinder walls. If the setpoint is a true stochiometric mixture, the effective burning mixture will be lean and will cause all of the issues that a lean mixture causes.
Advanced IC engine design class. Due to the coolant in the block, the cylinder walls will always be cooler than the center of the combustion chamber causing fuel to condense on the cylinder walls. If the setpoint is a true stochiometric mixture, the effective burning mixture will be lean and will cause all of the issues that a lean mixture causes.
Honda ecus rapidly cycle the the a/f ratio from slightly rich to slightly lean to control emmisions. They dont run rich during normal idle and cruise conditions.