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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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I change my oil every 5,000 miles (regular) or 10,000 miles (full synthetic). I've been having good results with this, but I'm wondering is it the same mentality for filters too? I'm not sure if a Honda OEM filter can last 10,000 miles, however if you guys regularly push 10,000 on one filter I'll stick with them for the life of the car.

Basically, is it safe using a Honda OEM filter with synthetic oil and changing them both every 10,000 miles? Or should I purchase one of those extended life filters (not sure if they even work as advertised, I usually stick with the Honda filters)?
 
Old Jun 26, 2014 | 08:54 PM
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The last sentence. Or you can always choose to ignore this advise, but check your oil level every time you fill up with gas.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 09:50 PM
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What I used to do and still do if I am going to use the Honda OEM oil filters with synthetic oil and want to go for extended oil change intervals. Change the oil filter at around 5,000 miles and top off the oil level.

In addition, I purchase/use the Honda oil filters with Honda part number 15400-PLM-A01, which are made by Filtech and better quality than Honda oil filter made by Honeywell/Fram (Honda part number 15400-PLM-A02).

Most dealerships carry the filters made by Honeywell/Fram, Honda part number 15400-PLM-A02.

Handa Accessories carries Honda part number 15400-PLM-A01.


 
Old Jun 26, 2014 | 10:21 PM
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Mobil-1 makes a real nice filter; so is Purolator Pure-1.

With your 2009, you should have the oil-life monitor. That keeps track of your driving habits & calculates accordingly. With a couple Civics anyway, I've had the oil analyzed a few times and convinced myself that with Castrol GTX (non-synth) & Pure-1 filter I can trust the oil-life monitor.
 
Old Jun 27, 2014 | 12:54 AM
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Mobil-1 makes a real nice filter; so is Purolator Pure-1.

With your 2009, you should have the oil-life monitor. That keeps track of your driving habits & calculates accordingly. With a couple Civics anyway, I've had the oil analyzed a few times and convinced myself that with Castrol GTX (non-synth) & Pure-1 filter I can trust the oil-life monitor.
Redbull, thanks for the part numbers and that information, I'll use that when I want to pick up a few OEM filters.

And Jim, the reason I don't trust the maintenece minder is because even when it would tell me my oil was at 15%, I'd check it with the dipstick and it would still be relatively clean. The only time I listen to the minder is while using regular oil, since it's reminders are usually fairly solid (like my most recent oil change, 15% oil life at roughly 5,000 miles driven).

If I was to buy say, Royal Purple oil (which I've heard good things about from friends, its pricey but I wouldn't mind trying it out), would a Mobil-1 filter (or any filter) for that matter last me 10,000 miles (the interval I change synthetic at for peace of mind)? 5,000 miles per oil filter seems to be what I've been reading after researching but there has to be filters that last longer than that. I went roughly 8,000 miles on a Honda OEM filter and my car was fine.
 
Old Jun 27, 2014 | 01:17 AM
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A quality oil filter can go longer than 5,000 miles. I just do that as a half way point when I am just using the Honda OEM oil filter and running extended drain intervals.

I don't always run extended drain intervals. Now, I only do it sometimes. Years ago, I always ran with extended drain intervals with synthetics.
 
Old Jun 27, 2014 | 10:34 AM
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A quality oil filter can go longer than 5,000 miles. I just do that as a half way point when I am just using the Honda OEM oil filter and running extended drain intervals.

I don't always run extended drain intervals. Now, I only do it sometimes. Years ago, I always ran with extended drain intervals with synthetics.
Do you think I'd be safe running 10,000 miles with synthetic on a Honda OEM filter? Or should I get an extended life one?

And what was your interval on your extended drain?
 
Old Jun 27, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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If I were to go 10,000 miles without changing the oil filter, I would recommend using an extended life oil filter.

Since I buy the Honda Filtech oil filters at bulk discount, I will just change the Honda OEM filter at 5,000 miles if I do extended oil drain/change intervals

If I were to use Pennzoil "Ultra" synthetic oil, I change the oil at around 10,000 miles. Ultra is Pennzoil's best synthetic and better than regular Mobil 1 synthetic.

If I were to use Mobil 1 "Extended Performance" synthetic oil (which is different than the regular Mobil 1 synthetic oil) , I change the oil at around 10,000 miles.

If I were to regular Mobil 1 synthetic oil, I would change both the oil and filter at around 7,500 miles.

A long time ago, when Mobil 1 advertised their Mobil 1 synthetic to be able to run like 30,000 miles (IIRC), I did extended drain intervals of 15,000 miles with oil filter changes every 5,000 miles on my CRX Si. I drove mainly highway miles and accumulate miles fast (back then, about 25,000 miles a year). My car was fine even when I sold it with 165,000 miles on the odometer. The compression was still at stock specs., no oil burning, no power loss, etc.
 

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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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Interesting oil filter related facts most folks don't know (or refuse to believe):
  • For many Hondas, my 2001 Accord V6 included, Honda's standard oil filter replacement interval is 15,000 miles, every other oil change.
  • Oil filter efficiency for every unit of oil filtered *improves* as a filter ages.
  • Prior to when many manufacturers switched to the tea-cup sized filters; the midsized and larger filters (such as the one used for my Accord) were typically good for a conservative 20,000 miles.
  • Changing an oil filter too often is actually bad for the engine as more unfiltered contaminates are circulated throughout the engine. Said contaminates won't get filtered out until the filter gets a little dirty and starts filtering down to a smaller particulate size.
 
Old Jun 27, 2014 | 01:49 PM
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Actually Honda's "normal" oil change interval for 2003 4-cyl (which I used to own) was 10,000 miles. Then the filter is replaced every-other oil change. (I always put a new filter on every time just because it seems like a good inexpensive thing to do)

That probably lasted until 2006 or 2007 whenever they started with the calculated oil-life monitor.

Even without visible dirt, the oil's additive pack can get used up and the pH drops. But I usually see some darkening by that time.
 



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