2015 V6 Touring starting problem
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2015 V6 Touring starting problem
Hello all,
this problem is making me think to move from Honda to another Family car .I have been Honda Owner since early 80s and never regret, my last and current Honda is a 2015 Accord V6 Touring which was purchased after a lot of considerations and I was happy for almost two years , The Accord was first bought new by me in 2016 and I did not have a major problem ,just needed to change the battery ,and wear and tear , The car has 45000 miles and drives better than day1 , however starting last year a problem with starter , which is like push botton does not start the car and produces a grinding sound , may be after 2-3 some times 4 push waiting like 10 second it starts the car , Initially I did not do any think but it continued and finally I took it to dealership and they replaced the starter , a month later the same , they diagnosed the battery , a month or so later again the same thing .It does not happen every time . it may happen 2-3 times and then nothing for several days or weeks and then may happen once .
My dealership gave me a list of several things but they stated they will go ahead step by step.To me it is not very convincing and I think the mechanic or technician does not do a good diagnostic job .is there a way for a definite diagnose and repair , what do you think the problem is?
I bought the extended warranty from them which is not covered with other honda dealerships and I am not sure if Honda of America covers that if I take the Honda to other dealers .
Please let me know if anyone has any such experinces with starter.
Thank you
2015 Honda Accord V6 3.5 . Touring
this problem is making me think to move from Honda to another Family car .I have been Honda Owner since early 80s and never regret, my last and current Honda is a 2015 Accord V6 Touring which was purchased after a lot of considerations and I was happy for almost two years , The Accord was first bought new by me in 2016 and I did not have a major problem ,just needed to change the battery ,and wear and tear , The car has 45000 miles and drives better than day1 , however starting last year a problem with starter , which is like push botton does not start the car and produces a grinding sound , may be after 2-3 some times 4 push waiting like 10 second it starts the car , Initially I did not do any think but it continued and finally I took it to dealership and they replaced the starter , a month later the same , they diagnosed the battery , a month or so later again the same thing .It does not happen every time . it may happen 2-3 times and then nothing for several days or weeks and then may happen once .
My dealership gave me a list of several things but they stated they will go ahead step by step.To me it is not very convincing and I think the mechanic or technician does not do a good diagnostic job .is there a way for a definite diagnose and repair , what do you think the problem is?
I bought the extended warranty from them which is not covered with other honda dealerships and I am not sure if Honda of America covers that if I take the Honda to other dealers .
Please let me know if anyone has any such experinces with starter.
Thank you
2015 Honda Accord V6 3.5 . Touring
Last edited by PAhonda; Mar 31, 2022 at 06:35 PM.
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Thank you .Rey
2015 Honda Accord V6 Limited
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The only way to know for sure is to troubleshoot electrically when the car won't start.
Several items can cause this to happen. Based on your description, the + battery cable from your battery to your starter could be corroded causing resistance, or have bad connections at the battery or starter. The new starter could be bad out of the box. The 12V signal to the starter could be missing or weak. Maybe missing teeth on the flex plate?
More diagnostics would be required to identify the problem. We can give suggestions if you have the tools to troubleshoot electrically. Some parts stores can test the starter/battery as a free service.
Several items can cause this to happen. Based on your description, the + battery cable from your battery to your starter could be corroded causing resistance, or have bad connections at the battery or starter. The new starter could be bad out of the box. The 12V signal to the starter could be missing or weak. Maybe missing teeth on the flex plate?
More diagnostics would be required to identify the problem. We can give suggestions if you have the tools to troubleshoot electrically. Some parts stores can test the starter/battery as a free service.
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The only way to know for sure is to troubleshoot electrically when the car won't start.
Several items can cause this to happen. Based on your description, the + battery cable from your battery to your starter could be corroded causing resistance, or have bad connections at the battery or starter. The new starter could be bad out of the box. The 12V signal to the starter could be missing or weak. Maybe missing teeth on the flex plate?
More diagnostics would be required to identify the problem. We can give suggestions if you have the tools to troubleshoot electrically. Some parts stores can test the starter/battery as a free service.
Several items can cause this to happen. Based on your description, the + battery cable from your battery to your starter could be corroded causing resistance, or have bad connections at the battery or starter. The new starter could be bad out of the box. The 12V signal to the starter could be missing or weak. Maybe missing teeth on the flex plate?
More diagnostics would be required to identify the problem. We can give suggestions if you have the tools to troubleshoot electrically. Some parts stores can test the starter/battery as a free service.
2015 Honda Accord V6 Limited
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The starter is just an electrical motor that spins the engine when you hit the start button. The starter has a gear (bendix) that engages then teeth on the flexplate and spins the engine.
From your description, the starter motor is getting signal and spinning. The gear (bendix) is not engaging or can not engage the teeth on the flex plate. The challenge is why.
For me, the easiest test is to do a voltage drop test from the + battery terminal to the large post on the starter motor using a volt meter. Hopefully your friend will understand what I am asking.
You might want to watch the youtube video called Diagnosis and Understanding- Voltage Drop. Another good youtube video is called Voltage Drop Testing the Starter.
If you crank the engine and read <0.5V with this test when the car won't start, then you are ok.
There is also a TSB for your accord. See https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...15802-9999.pdf
From your description, the starter motor is getting signal and spinning. The gear (bendix) is not engaging or can not engage the teeth on the flex plate. The challenge is why.
For me, the easiest test is to do a voltage drop test from the + battery terminal to the large post on the starter motor using a volt meter. Hopefully your friend will understand what I am asking.
You might want to watch the youtube video called Diagnosis and Understanding- Voltage Drop. Another good youtube video is called Voltage Drop Testing the Starter.
If you crank the engine and read <0.5V with this test when the car won't start, then you are ok.
There is also a TSB for your accord. See https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...15802-9999.pdf
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The starter is just an electrical motor that spins the engine when you hit the start button. The starter has a gear (bendix) that engages then teeth on the flexplate and spins the engine.
From your description, the starter motor is getting signal and spinning. The gear (bendix) is not engaging or can not engage the teeth on the flex plate. The challenge is why.
For me, the easiest test is to do a voltage drop test from the + battery terminal to the large post on the starter motor using a volt meter. Hopefully your friend will understand what I am asking.
You might want to watch the youtube video called Diagnosis and Understanding- Voltage Drop. Another good youtube video is called Voltage Drop Testing the Starter.
If you crank the engine and read <0.5V with this test when the car won't start, then you are ok.
There is also a TSB for your accord. See https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...15802-9999.pdf
From your description, the starter motor is getting signal and spinning. The gear (bendix) is not engaging or can not engage the teeth on the flex plate. The challenge is why.
For me, the easiest test is to do a voltage drop test from the + battery terminal to the large post on the starter motor using a volt meter. Hopefully your friend will understand what I am asking.
You might want to watch the youtube video called Diagnosis and Understanding- Voltage Drop. Another good youtube video is called Voltage Drop Testing the Starter.
If you crank the engine and read <0.5V with this test when the car won't start, then you are ok.
There is also a TSB for your accord. See https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...15802-9999.pdf
Last edited by Rey; Apr 6, 2022 at 06:58 PM.
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So, after many months of evaluating the behaviour of Accorad Starter on the pattern either start or Grind , I realised posibsle connection between the brake Pedal and time of pushing the starter Button.The Service adviser at honda Dealership completely ignorant and possibly does not have a basic training other than selling services which not needed , like selling a completly good battery replaced with new one , and changinga 3 years old factory instaled starter with a new one and stating the problem is resolved , but I have atleast 3 times weekly starter problem , when I bring the car to dealership he states bring the car when does not start so I can hear the sound .the same day didnot want to start , took it there and it was starting fine . I stated that there should be a way dealership diagnose the problem or generate the grinding sound by starting may be several time , answer is no, go and when the starter does not work come back you are on 3 years warranty.Really is that a service , it is a brand name dealership all over america , and I am going to send them most harsh critics for service adviser at that specific Honda of XXXX with dates , and then to Honda of America and then to all social media platform including yelp and google rating to show a costomer Loyal since late1970s and constantly till now ,even today I have 3 newer hondas in my garage , but probabaly time to move to another company with better care and after sell Service .but about the problem and my finding.
is it some thing connected to how hard ot how long you press the brake pedal before pressing the start botton?I realised some time not all the time , when I press the brake pedal and start botton and it fail , I keep the brake pedal and then it gives me like more space to presse and then it starts with first botton pressure .
Cars specilly new ones are not my trained filed and I donot know much but this was my observation .
Next ,;while I hate it
Moving up from 2015 Honda Accord V6 Touring which I absoloutly love and enjoy spending time in and driving, what would be a reliable and capable car with good Service warranty and hounest factory back up? I Like Mercedes Benz E300, but engine is not powerfull enough for me. I ilke chrysler 300 too , but donot know about reliability and service of the car .
Thank you
is it some thing connected to how hard ot how long you press the brake pedal before pressing the start botton?I realised some time not all the time , when I press the brake pedal and start botton and it fail , I keep the brake pedal and then it gives me like more space to presse and then it starts with first botton pressure .
Cars specilly new ones are not my trained filed and I donot know much but this was my observation .
Next ,;while I hate it
Moving up from 2015 Honda Accord V6 Touring which I absoloutly love and enjoy spending time in and driving, what would be a reliable and capable car with good Service warranty and hounest factory back up? I Like Mercedes Benz E300, but engine is not powerfull enough for me. I ilke chrysler 300 too , but donot know about reliability and service of the car .
Thank you
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The TSB reads to change the index between the flex plate and torque converter/ring gear. Was that done? I don't see how this corrects the issue which from the TSB is the distance from the starter gear and ring gear is incorrect.