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fusion1620 04-16-2011 03:21 PM

87 accord no spark
 
Hello!

Trying to help fix my friend 87 accord. No spark.. Coil has power on the right side connector..Fuel pump comes on then shuts off when the key is turned on. I'm not seeing a check engine light when the key is turned on, just an oil light..No relay clicking under the dash. Checked for power at the ecu fuse and it has power. The fuse is good. When I plug and unplug #10 fuse ecu nothing happens.. I am trying to find the main relay and can't seem to find it.. The rpm tach does not move while cranking.. Any help would be cool.. Thanks...:cool:

crispin 04-16-2011 03:26 PM

well if you have +12 on the positive side of the coil then you are not getting a negative pulse from the pickup.

fusion1620 04-16-2011 03:38 PM

I want to check the main relay, but still cannot find it.. Don't think the ecu is getting power. No check engine light comes on and can't here the main relay click.. .

fusion1620 04-16-2011 03:42 PM

Ok.. The main relay is working I think.. I can here it click when the key is turned on. Fuel pump comes on.. No check engine light. Gonna try checking the ecu now..

fusion1620 04-16-2011 04:09 PM

Can't find the main relay.. 87 accord..:confused:

fusion1620 04-16-2011 04:16 PM

Its not there???


86, 87, 88 and 89 Honda Accord and some Acura Integra relay location removal procedure:
http://techautorepairs.com/relaylocationgif.gif
The main relay is located just right above the hood release, inside the dash panel bolted to the left kick panel with a bolt that will fit a 10 mm socket. It has seven wires from the connector. Older Acura Legends is located behind the fuse panel near the firewall.
  1. Remove the coin box (for a better view.)
  2. With a 10 mm socket or wrench., reach deep inside and at the top of the relay there you will feel a bolt.
  3. Unbolt it. (If you cannot unbolt then you may dislodge the relay from the the steel flange using a large flat head screw driver or pull the relay guts out of its casing. See drawing D below.)
  4. If you damage the flange, you may be able to flatten the flange back to shape.
  5. Bring the relay down and unplug the connector by squeezing the locking tab then separate the connector from the relay.
  6. See installation at the bottom of this page.

poorman212 04-17-2011 08:26 AM

DX, LX or LX-i. You'll only find the main relay of it is injected (LX-i).

crispin 04-17-2011 10:50 AM

someone can correct me if I am wrong but if the OP has +12 on the coil then he does not have a main relay problem.
He has a ignition pick-up problem.
The pick-up is what sends the negative pulse to the coil to make it spark.

poorman212 04-17-2011 11:18 AM

crispin - yes chasing the relay is not where the OP needs to be.

However the coil needs to be tested-both sides-and then the ICM/igniter before getting to the pickup.

My post about the model (DX, LX or LXi) and the realy was more to get a tad bit more information from the OP. There are minor differences that would be nice to know.

hondadude 04-17-2011 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by crispin (Post 237795)
someone can correct me if I am wrong but if the OP has +12 on the coil then he does not have a main relay problem.
He has a ignition pick-up problem.
The pick-up is what sends the negative pulse to the coil to make it spark.

Sounds Correct to me...the O.P. is chasing a ghost down the wrong trail.

Having been on this website for a long time I can tell you that the O.P. will continue until he changes the main relay and only then will he believe it isn't the problem.

A test light flashing on one side of the coil will tell the tale.

"You can lead a horse to water......."


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