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Old Apr 6, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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Ok Guy's I have an issue! I decided to do my timing belt on my 96 Accord
F22B2 4cylinder. All was going well untill the very end when it was time to put thing back together. It looks like one of my many visitors today might have booted the bolt that holds the tensioner toward the front of the car. I have looked for the past hour and it's gone,apparently into that 3rd demensions you know the demensions where anything missing goes until it turns up! I have had it today and it looks like I will have to hit the Steeler on Monday for a new one.... Anyone know if this is a special bolt? Does anybody know exactly what this bolt looks like? I'm thinking it must have a shoulder on it so that he tensioner can slide? Any help here would greatly be appriciated!
Oh and this crap only happens to me.....
 
Old Apr 6, 2013 | 06:17 PM
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Hmm I'm thinking there more than likley there are not a lot of Guy's on this forum that can answer this question? So I will ask if anyone has a detailed exploaded diagram of the F22B2 engine with detailed parts? Maybe a factory manual will show what this Bol is? Can't believe this has happened....
 
Old Apr 6, 2013 | 07:04 PM
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I am not sure what bolt you are talking about, so can you post a picture?
 
Old Apr 6, 2013 | 07:37 PM
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If I recall correctly it is a 6mm shoulder bolt similar to the bolts that hold the timing cover on but the shoulder's about half the length of those. It's common for it to be missing since it's only tightened temporarily to hold the timing belt tension while the balancer belt is tensioned. After that the 14mm-head tensioner nut holds the tensioners in place and the bolt serves no purpose. On OEM dealer parts diagrams it's referred to with an "E" suffix, which I think means that it's a service part, not part of the belt/tensioner assembly. I don't see why a regular, shoulder-less bolt wouldn't work just to hold the tensioner in place but it would have to be short enough to not bottom out in the oil pump housing. Then just take it out after belts belts are tensioned.
 
Old Apr 6, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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You sure it was there when you took the old timing belt off? That bolt isn't supposed to be left installed. (if it's the bolt I think it is)

https://www.hondaaccordforum.com/for...warning-22046/
 
Old Apr 6, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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Hmm I really am not sure Jim? To be honest I don't remember taking a bolt off but when I look at the the tensioner where the bolt goes there is a mark on the tensioner toward the front of the car. I'm not sure Jim but since there is a spring holding tension on this part and a slot that appears to of had a bolt in it,I have to believe that this is the case. I need to figure out what that bolt is and get it in order to reassemble...
 
Old Apr 6, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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You know Jim I'm not sure at all? In fact if it wasn't there how would I have known? Maybe that is indeed what happened and I'm not nut's after all.?? To be honest I'm not sure... So your telling me that the slot on the tensioner towards the front of the car does'n t have a bolt? When was it there and why was it removed? Hmm maybe I'm not crazy after all?.. I sure feel like I am? Jim please verify so I can reassemble because I need this car.....
 
Old Apr 7, 2013 | 09:44 AM
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Ok Guy's after some study and much research I'm thinking that the bolt was never there and possibly the mark that I see on the old tensioner was from the factory and was removed by the Dealer when servicing the belt. My conclusion is if I can find a small bolt to hold it in place until I get the belt back on then simply remove it after tension is applied.
Would this be correct thinking? Also what's the easiest way to apply tension to the belt?
Thanks again!
 
Old Apr 7, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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I'm still not sure which bolt/tensioner belt we are talking about?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Thanks for jumping in Poorman. The picture on the right of your last post is the part I am referring to. It's the rear idler with the slot. Is it possible that this bolt can be missing and the timing be correct? I don't remember removing it yet when I look at the old idler there is evidence that there was a bolt on this part at one time. Can you tell me if I need to go an get this bolt? Also what's the easiest tension method?
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