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Old 12-29-2011, 09:31 PM
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I have a 1999 Honda Accord EX V4-2.3L Automatic with 118,900 miles in CT that hasn't been driven for over 2 years. Its never been garaged in the last 13 years, I expect there is a fair amount of corrosion on the underside. I'm trying to bring it restore it, and started by replacing a new battery and will do an engine oil with 5w30 Mobil1 oil and Mobil filter (i put in a fumoto valve a few years ago. That's the limit of my mechanical skills. So I filled air and set the tire pressure, and took it for an Emissions testing and DMV registration, and then to an auto mechanic for evaluation. It was a 20-mile trip, and I didn't have any breakdowns. The steering wheel vibrated, and not sure if that was due to the rotors, or because the power steering fluid has never been replaced. No smoke coming from the engine. The mechanic took the tires off and checked the brakes and the radiator with a pressure test. Recommended that I replace all the rotors and pads, the radiator and the radiator hoses, and service the calipers. The rotors were warped and rusted, the pads had worn out. He said the radiator would start leaking soon as it would come apart at the seams, and also that the hose may burst (said something about the clamp/hose/cutting/coolant dispersing).

I've been researching this for the last few days, and have read a lot of posts on this site, and seen youtube videos, and figured this isn't something I can do. So I'm focusing on getting the parts for the job. The labor rate is $98/hour.

Radiator: I looked at HondaAutomotiveParts, and saw that the radiator was from Denso. I landed up at DensoProducts and found 221-3215 at $88, which (even with the $30 3-day shipping) compares very well to the $232 for the OEM. Then I checked NAPA and see that they have three, between $138 to $144. I was leaning towards NAPA since I could get it quicker, but wasn't sure about the quality. Is one better over the other? I'm not sure if they all have a drain plug, or if the original radiator cap will fit. Is there anything else I should look for?
Radiator work is 2.5 hours of Labor.
Radiator Hose: On radiator hose and clamps, does it matter where I get them from? Honda Automotive is selling OEM, upper and lower for $21 + SH, should I get those, or is there better value elsewhere?

Antifreeze: What do folks use for the Antifreeze? I read the owner's manual, and it says only use the Honda brand, the mechanic says Global Lifetime Antifreeze should be fine. Since I'm putting in a new radiator, is a flush required?

Brakes: I'm 50-50 with city-highway, and my driving isn't too aggressive. I checked out OEM, AutoAnything and Tirerack, and leaning towards Tirerack. It seems that "Centric Posi Quiet Semi Metalic Pads" at $41 front and $32 rear would be a good frugal choice, but I'm uncertain as I don't know how good these are. For the rotors, I'm not sure how to decide between the "Brembo Replacement Rotor" ($43 front, $31 rear, each) and the "Centric Plain 120" ($32 front, $31 rear). Is one better over the other?

Brake work is 4.5 hours of labor.

Brake Fluid and Flush: What criteria to use to determine if the brake fluid should be flushed and replaced?


Power Steering Fluid: What criteria to use to determine if it should be flushed/replaced/topped?

Is there anything else that should be checked out for a car with this history?

If there are any recommendations for auto shops in or around Danbury, CT area, please let me know, I will give them a call.

Thank you for reading the post, any suggestions and recommendations appreciated.

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1999 Honda Accord EX 4-cylinder Automatic Sedan
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:45 PM
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I would probably go with the Denso radiator. Removing the radiator is not too bad of a DIY. The only tricky part may be removing the transmission lines.

For the coolant, how long does the manual say to change the coolant?

I have read that brembo rotors are of good quality.

I would drain and refill the transmission with Honda ATF. One drain refill will take about 3 quarts.
 
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:24 PM
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i have an 01 accord and it has never been in a garage and i do a lot of hwy and city driving. my radiator and hoses are fine. i just changed the coolant for the first time just because its old not a whole lot of miles and it didn't look bad at all. But for your case if you feel you would like to spend the money now its up to you. but i would say it your hoses aren't cracked or dry rotted don't worry about it and same with the radiator. if it does start to leak cary a jug of water until you are able to replace it but it is something the average person i think can do with some patience and basic skills and tools. my radiator is a denso from factory. but napa caries quality products cheaper than orielys and autozone at least where i am from. and there products have a warranty. the stock cap will work on a replacement but if yours is cracked or the seal is bad get a new one. and they should come with a new petcock plug. however. do NOT throw away your old radiator before you get the new one. i got a radiator from nappa and i had to use the old brass fittings for the trans in the new one. Brembo is a good quality part as well. i am not sure about the other. and with the steering and break fluids if the pump is not winning when you turn or your break pedal isn't dropping i would assume ( but could be wrong) the fluids or fine. but since you are getting new rotors and pads i would have them bleed the breaks with new fluid. your steering vibration might come from some lose tierods or other steering components. i am not a pro at all of this but i hope some of this helps
 
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:35 PM
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some other things, my steering wheels vibrates slightly because of the engine vibration and i can only see and feel it when i'm at a red light and have the a/c on but if yours is really bad i would have it looked at. and for the coolant i used i just got peak long life concentrated and filled it with one gallon and the rest with water instead of getting 2 gallons of 50/50. and the reason the manual says honda products only is because they want your money. but i will say the only honda fluid i use is their trans fluid. and they dont even make the one (ATF Z1) my car takes now. they have ATF DW1 now or something like that name. but i think if you set aside a full weekend to check fluids replace fluids and basic care like air filter and such a lot of you maintenance will be done for not nearly as much money as they charge at the shop. but when it comes to steering issues ( a lot of vibration) and having breaks redone i would take it somewhere because if you are not sure what you are doing you mess up bad.
 
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The cooling system is probably one of the most important systems of your vehicle since it is the one responsible for maintaining the engine as well as the overall temperature of the vehicle. To optimize its functionality, the cooling system is composed of various parts and one of, which is the radiator. A radiator is a device found in your car's engine compartment. It is the one responsible in maintaining your car's engine temperature to prevent it from overheating. The radiator works by transferring thermal energy from your car's engine and releasing it outside. Probably one of the most commonly used radiators today is the Aftermarket radiator. The Aftermarket radiator is a high quality radiator introduced by the world class car products maker, Aftermarket. One of today's well renowned high quality car parts are made by Aftermarket, a quality car parts maker. The Aftermarket radiator functions as a heat exchanger inside the car's engine compartment. Basically the radiator is connected to channels passing through the engine and the cylinder head where a fluid is pumped. The fluid that is pumped through the radiator is called the coolant. As its name implies it is used to keep the temperature of the engine controlled to avoid engine overheating. Radiators must be checked periodically to avoid serious engine problems. So, once it becomes defective, replacement should not be put off. If you are looking for a high quality radiator you can visit our online store and browse our catalogs for your car part needs. We have a wide range of car parts including the radiator. Our finest radiators include the Aftermarket radiator. Our Aftermarket radiator is guaranteed high in quality. Install the Aftermarket radiator now and prevent your car from overheating. With our Aftermarket radiator your car will surely run with optimum performance, without you are worrying about engine overheating.

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Old 12-30-2011, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PAhonda
I would drain and refill the transmission with Honda ATF. One drain refill will take about 3 quarts.
You say this because its been sitting for a while?

I looked through my records today, and I changed the transmission oil with Honda ATF at 114,000 miles in April 2008, and the let it sit starting 118,850 miles in Sep 2009.
 
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Old 12-30-2011, 06:51 AM
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Now that I come to think of it, my steering wheel vibrates slightly even when on a straight highway with no traffic and braking. Its not really noticeable, but given nothing similar in other cars, this becomes more obvious to a layperson. However, after 30mins or more, my arms, elbows and shoulders start hurting from the vibration.
 
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Now that I come to think of it, my steering wheel vibrates slightly even when on a straight highway with no traffic and braking.
Tires. The car sat for two years so the tires might have flatspotted. Switch the backs with the fronts and see the vibration changes or goes away.
 
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:19 AM
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Default Does a set of pads have driver and passenger side?

I had a question, when the OEM parts are sold, are they for the driver and passenger side, or is it for one at wheel a time?

Example, on HondaAutomotiveParts for 1999 Honda Accord EX V4AT:

Front : "45022-S84-A02, PAD SET, FR." $41.39
Rear: "43022-SY8-A0, PAD SET, RR." $44.30
 
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Old 12-30-2011, 12:57 PM
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The front set has all four pads. Look at the diagram for part number 6. It shows all four.

Also, the required quantity is 1 for the pads. For the hub, for example, the required quantity is 2 (one for each side).

For parts that are side specific, they put a L (driver's) and R (passenger) side.
 


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