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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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Those are fairly mild bolt ons. The P0H ECU shouldn't have any problems with them.
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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Yeah, thats what I thought. So I think ill focus on the EGR gases potentially raising my intake temp so significantly. The coolant is supposed to cool down the gases but I don't think its doing its job.
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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Remove and plug vacuum hose from EGR valve. Does the performance problem go away?
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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Ill try that out. I suspect an exhaust leak at the header. The heat wrap has small spots that are white and worn. I can feel a little air but not enough to be sure its coming from the header. But that wouldnt do anything to the EGR would it?
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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I wouldn't think so. The EGR uses so little exhaust gas volume. But fix the leak. Exhaust leaking in the engine compartment might make its way into the cabin.
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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Yeah. Well its a suspected but not confirmed. My car has gone back to how it was before now, the ECU has adjusted after moving the IAT sensor to a cool location.

It literally feels like the pedal is heavier and the car responds quicker at random times but now its back to where I can floor it and ill get some speed but not like before. Almost as if I was in a higher gear at the same speed. Thats the difference in throttle I get randomly.

Maybe it is an exhaust leak then... So I need a new header and front pipe. This is a 421 that extends longer than what you would see on the dc header for f22's. Should I go with the should runs for more low end torque or do the headers with the longer runs provide enough low end torque anyway?
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 10:50 PM
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The TPS reads 1/2 volt closed throttle, 4.5v full throttle, and a nice, smooth voltage transition between the two?
 
Old Jan 19, 2013 | 11:39 PM
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I will check the voltages. I can only read % from my ecu. Ill try with my multimeter.
TPS has been a suspect in this but it always reads 9% at idle and 49% at full throttle. Perhaps the actual voltages would suggest differently?
 
Old Jan 20, 2013 | 09:06 AM
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I can only read % from my ecu...it always reads 9% at idle and 49% at full throttle.
I don't know about percentage readings from the ECU. Maybe you're using a scanner to read percentages? If so then IDK; I don't own a scanner and have never used one. Sorry.

Intermittent bad throttle response could be a TPS going bad. It's just a potentiometer, and pots can go bad with age/use. Manual trans TPS/throttle bodies wear out faster than automatic's. What throttle body did you use with the F23 manifold swap and how many miles on that TB?
 
Old Jan 20, 2013 | 10:31 AM
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I have an obd2 bluetooth adapter that i use with my computer but it only gets % readings from the ecu for the tps. But I can use my multimeter directly to the wire.

That makes a lot of sense and I spoke to someone with an lx who had starting issues in the cold and he said that they had to replace the tps. I guess on the 5th gen manuals they tend to go bad. I really hope thats it.

I used my own f22 TB and as far as i know the tps is original with 194k on it.

Would a bad tps dominate how the pedal literally feels too? heavy or weak when i push down. an indirect effect of different amounts of air rushing through and the throttle being open at different positions despite what the tps says?
 

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