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Clutch Soft When Turning Right - 2005 Accord LX MT Coupe 150k

Old Mar 2, 2020 | 05:44 PM
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Hi All,

I have a 05 Accord Lx 5 speed coupe with 150k...

I have trouble getting anywhere on this goofy problem.

Every time I turn right in certain circumstances-my clutch goes soft and won't let me in gear until I pump it once or twice while I am not actively turning. I've been to a transmission shop 4 whole days- they can't figure it out. Nobody has ever heard of this. If you turn right in a parking lot, 90 degree turn ya know, and go to push in the clutch, its soft and mushy and prevents my shift. Then when I'm straight and losing speed, I pump the clutch once, that's usually enough, and then I can get clutch pedal pressure again and go ok. I get nabbed worse when I take up or down highway ramps. During those long windy slow turns- the clutch goes soft as long as I'm turning.

we replaced the clutch master cylinder 3 x, 2 slaves, and a clutch a year and 1/2 ago. We also replaced all the hoses, lines, connectors and fittings that run between.

Called honda dealer today- they never heard such a thing. Im so desperate! Gonna take to them Wednesday and see what they can find.

any input???
 
Old Mar 2, 2020 | 07:36 PM
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Just a wild guess, but is there a vacuum line involved in this clutch system?

If the brakes was mushy, I would suspect - master cylinder, brake booster, or vacuum line. and possible leaking brake line.
So I am assuming the clutch cylinder is working under the same principle.
 
Old Mar 2, 2020 | 08:37 PM
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I had to delete my previous posts. So it looks like the brake system has nothing to do with the clutch system. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I have a few questions. Was the guide sleeve replaced? What type of grease did you use on the sleeve if so and on the throughout bearing and splines? What brand slave/master did you purchase, could be faulty or leaking inside (bad seals) if the problem happened after replacing. Don't know if you replaced with the same brand or not.

I know this would drive me crazy if I was going through it. I hope the issue is found. I'm just throwing somethings out there
 

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Old Mar 3, 2020 | 07:56 AM
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Sean, You're right - Brakes are a different system.

I checked and no vacuum on clutch system. If anything I would suspect master cylinder ( if you change this again, use a DIFFERENT brand) or air in the lines.
 
Old Mar 3, 2020 | 09:23 AM
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I have 3 different brand masters. 1 from advance, 1 from napa, and 1 from ebay but the nissin brand. All perform the same. Had it bled with a speed bleeder at the trans shop, nothing got better stayed the same. Also, have bled in our garage like 8 different times.
 
Old Mar 3, 2020 | 09:25 AM
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There is no loss of pressure during left turns- would air in the line only resurface when turning? And why when I'm not turning I can pump and get pressure but I can pump all day while I'm turning right and won't get any pressure until I'm finished turning. Everyone says it's either air in the line, bleed it, nothing, or shops say Idk never heard of that before.
 
Old Mar 3, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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It doesn't make since. I would take a step back and look at the running of the line. Turn the car to the right and see if anything is getting pinched.l especially around the rack and axles

What did you grease with when changing out the clutch?
 
Old Mar 3, 2020 | 10:11 AM
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A shop did the clutch a year and a half ago. I don't know what was or wasnt done but doesn't seem like the clutch wouldn't work only when i'm turning right. If I turn right slowly, it doesn't happen, let's say turning into a parking lot 90 degrees granny style, doesn't do it.
 
Old Mar 3, 2020 | 11:29 AM
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It's not possible for any lines to get pinched. The hydraulic clutch system is a closed loop system and the lines and fittings we replaced are factory bent and formed for exact fit. They run above the axle and above the rack. There definitely couldn't be any pinch points. A few people have also suspected the master even still, but considering we changed it 3 times, with 3 brands, just seems crazy to me.
 
Old Mar 3, 2020 | 02:52 PM
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Ok I will look at mine to see. If you used 3 brand that's not it for sure unless your luck is that bad. Lol
 

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